War on Drugs video you guys should watch

[Ice]

@OT with a few ounces he could be in jail here, yes in the Netherlands. Certainly more trouble than a mere fine

If he's charged under federal law in this country, he will go to jail + pay thousands in fines.

If he's charged under state law, it varies a lot. He could get anything from a $100 civil fine, to x number of years in prison and pay thousands in fine for pot... for friggen pot. These people aren't even dealing, this is possession of marijuana for personal use... and people wonder why I'm so adamant about getting these stupid laws changed.

[Beirut]

A few years back the cops did a late-night no-knock raid on a guy's home near Montreal. Long story short, the guy wakes up because his daughter is screaming that there are men in the house, the guy shot one of the cops and killed him. The cops ended up shooting the walls, the doors, and one of their own. The judge let the guy go saying the cops fudged it up from start to finish and violated the guy's constitutional rights. I think it was the first time anyone in Canada was ever let off for killing a cop.

A real game changer, you might say. Nice to see we still have the right to defend ourselves against the state here.

[Greyblades]

What were they raiding for?

[Crazed Rabbit]

A few years back the cops did a late-night no-knock raid on a guy's home near Montreal. Long story short, the guy wakes up because his daughter is screaming that there are men in the house, the guy shot one of the cops and killed him. The cops ended up shooting the walls, the doors, and one of their own. The judge let the guy go saying the cops fudged it up from start to finish and violated the guy's constitutional rights. I think it was the first time anyone in Canada was ever let off for killing a cop.

A real game changer, you might say. Nice to see we still have the right to defend ourselves against the state here.

Indeed.

Sadly, the US legal system and judges often serve just to do as requested by law enforcement.

A similar situation happened in the US in 2001 with Corey Maye; cops did a no-knock raid at night on the wrong side of a duplex (also, the warrant to search the other half was fraudulently obtained), then kick down the door to where a man slept with his 18 month old daughter. The father shoots and kills a cop.

He got the death penalty.

Maye’s attorney tells me that after the trial, she spoke with two jurors by phone. She learned from them that the consensus among jurors was that Maye was convicted for two reasons. The first is that though they initially liked her, Maye’s lawyer, the jury soured on her when, in her closing arguments, she intimated that if the jury showed no mercy for Maye, God might neglect to bestow mercy on them when they meet him in heaven. They said the second reason May was convicted was that the jury felt he’d been spoiled by his mother and grandmother, and wasn’t very respectful of elders and authority figures. The facts of the case barely entered the picture. Gotta’ love the South.

Luckily, he's getting a new trial. Even if he is acquitted it will be 10 years since he was arrested.

CR