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    So anyone could be summoned to, say, Bulgaria to go through their "courts" with no evidence ever produced?

    Oh, the joys...

    On a completely unrelated subject I'm more pleased than ever that I'm planning to become an expatriate as soon as I get a suitable job somewhere in the GCC. Yes, they have arbitrary rubber stamped justice that wouldn't stand up in the UK... but then so do we effectively.

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    That Whore of Babylon, the instrument of Catholic oppression, the EU, has issued a DIKTAT that all European children must bow five times a day to a crucifix.


    Won't somebody stop this madness? I want a referendum now!! I have never agreed to this. I signed up for a single European superstate that supresses capitalism, national sovereignty and freedom of conscience. Not to a European Theocratic Union.


    Now look at the latest madness, another fatwa issued by the court of the ETU, the ECHR, to be imposed by that other instrument of Brussels, the UN security Council. Berlusconi is now magna pater Europae. The small nations have been crushed, made minnows to the Catholic supermajority.




    EU rules school crucifixes do not breach human rights

    Displaying crucifixes in schools in Italy does not breach the rights of non-Catholic families, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled.
    The court ruled there was no evidence that a crucifix hung in a classroom would influence pupils.
    The ruling overturned a previous decision made in November 2009, which angered the Roman Catholic country.
    Friday's decision was welcomed by Italy's foreign minister as a win for European "popular sentiment".


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    The Pope u'll be chuffed to bits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    That Whore of Babylon, the instrument of Catholic oppression, the EU, has issued a DIKTAT that all European children must bow five times a day to a crucifix.


    Won't somebody stop this madness? I want a referendum now!! I have never agreed to this. I signed up for a single European superstate that supresses capitalism, national sovereignty and freedom of conscience. Not to a European Theocratic Union.


    Now look at the latest madness, another fatwa issued by the court of the ETU, the ECHR, to be imposed by that other instrument of Brussels, the UN security Council. Berlusconi is now magna pater Europae. The small nations have been crushed, made minnows to the Catholic supermajority.

    Two things:

    1. This is a removal of a restriction previously imposed by the Court which was deeply unpopular in Italy and elsewere.

    2. By all means, have a referendum and EU. I fully support your right to self-determination, and that of your fellow Frenchmen.
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    A cross has absolutely no place in a classroom whatsoever.

    It is indeed a shame that the EU is unable to protect the rights of the italian civilian population, but the blame is first and foremost with the wretched leadership in Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    A cross has absolutely no place in a classroom whatsoever.
    Why?

    It's just an image, and Italian crucifixes are often esepecially beautiful. Even a an atheist like yourself should be able to appreciate the potence of an image of suffering and sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Why?

    It's just an image, and Italian crucifixes are often esepecially beautiful. Even a an atheist like yourself should be able to appreciate the potence of an image of suffering and sacrifice.
    The logo of the Labour party is quite nice too, a red rose, but I still don't want it anywhere near my classroom.

    Do I really have to explain why, or is it self-evident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Why?

    It's just an image, and Italian crucifixes are often esepecially beautiful. Even a an atheist like yourself should be able to appreciate the potence of an image of suffering and sacrifice.
    I fail to see the need to have images of torture displayed on classrooms for small children. What next, the potence of someone being skinned alive or perhaps having their hands cut off?

    There are many more beautiful images in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The logo of the Labour party is quite nice too, a red rose, but I still don't want it anywhere near my classroom.

    Do I really have to explain why, or is it self-evident?
    Political Parties are not religions or creeds. So your comparison falls flat. On the other hand, if you want to put photgraphs of great communist theorists on the walls - I see no problem with at.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I fail to see the need to have images of torture displayed on classrooms for small children. What next, the potence of someone being skinned alive or perhaps having their hands cut off?

    There are many more beautiful images in the world.

    That's a reasonable point to raise, but I don't think it's valid. The image is not an incitement to torture, and children (and adults) are far too insulated from the reality of the world outside a largely sanitised urban buble.
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    Hmmm.....

    It, erm, it was parody. I guess the standards of my posts lately have dropped so much I have become indistinguishable from silly parody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Hmmm.....

    It, erm, it was parody. I guess the standards of my posts lately have dropped so much I have become indistinguishable from silly parody.

    *worries *
    You were trying to make a point though, yes?

    Torygraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...U-schools.html

    I can't speak for others, but I personally have trouble telling when you are being inflamatory for emphasis, and when just being silly.
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