Ungrammaticality Uncovered: Armenian Noble Infantry/Cavalry

**vartan** · 03-25-2011, 04:53

Armenian Noble Infantry and Cavalry have an ungrammaticality in their titles in EB. This notice is to bring awareness of this to the team working on EB the Second in order not to repeat the same mistake.

The infantry and cavalry are, as you can find out from their respective unit descriptions, bodyguards and knights, respectively. Therefore, they are rightly named tiknapah (bodyguard) and aspet (knight). These are, of course, noble units (the analogue of patricians, for all the Romanists). The noun in Armenian for 'noble' is aznvakan. The adjective in Armenian for 'noble' is aznvakanakan [1]. Therefore, these units' names should actually read Aznvakanakan Tiknapah and Aznvakanakan Aspet [2].

N.B.:
[1] This is not an instance of reduplication in Armenian. -akan is semantically analogous to the -al suffix of English (cf. regiment/regimental). It so happens that aznvakan is a rare case in which the noun itself ends in that exact string of consonants and vowels.
[2] English does not have a phono-/morphological difference between the noun and adjective of 'noble'.

Happy modding,
Vartan

**Populus Romanus** · 03-25-2011, 06:26

There word "ungrammaticality" is ungrammatical.

**stratigos vasilios** · 03-25-2011, 07:46

Don't push Vartan on grammar, he is the man!

That's very interesting btw, I'm sure there is no way anyone else in the world other than you would have picked that up...

**jirisys** · 03-25-2011, 08:30

Originally Posted by Populus Romanus

There word "ungrammaticality" is ungrammatical.

Actually it isn't, un-grammatic-ality

Non - Grammar-related - state of being of a thing

A non-grammatical-state of being of a thing.

I guess I'm right.

~Jirisys ()

**Cute Wolf** · 03-25-2011, 09:56

so? we should change our export_units?

**XSamatan** · 03-25-2011, 11:11

Thanks for the report, I'll forward it!

XSamatan

**vartan** · 03-26-2011, 05:02

Originally Posted by XSamatan

Thanks for the report, I'll forward it!

XSamatan

Thanks for forwarding the message. Apologies for not originally reporting in the bugs sub-forum.

**jirisys** · 03-27-2011, 03:44

Originally Posted by vartan

Thanks for forwarding the message. Apologies for not originally reporting in the bugs sub-forum.

Thanks for thanking the forward.

Don't worry, it seemed bilateral anyways.

~Jirisys ()

**Foot** · 03-27-2011, 14:52

we do have a native armenian on our team, so I'll have to run your observations past him before commenting.

Foot

**vartan** · 03-28-2011, 19:05

Originally Posted by Foot

we do have a native armenian on our team, so I'll have to run your observations past him before commenting.

Foot

Run it by any Armenian linguists as well, if you have any. Dialect won't matter, the morphology in question is identical in both in this case.

Vartan