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Is it just me, or is it every time a Pokemon flinches from a move, that move will cause flinching 95% of the time for the rest of the battle? I just fought a battle where the opponet was using Stomp (30% chance of flinch). My guy flinched every time but twice... and he got hit at least 10 times. Another example, in either HG, I was fighting Karen in the Elite Four. I had my Umbreon use Dark Pulse to make her Gengar flinch every single time so I wouldn't lose. I had to restart a few times due to no flinching, but when her Gengar did flinch, I had pretty much won the battle.
Originally Posted by Double A:
I had my Umbreon use Dark Pulse to make her Gengar flinch every single time so I wouldn't lose. I had to restart a few times due to no flinching, but when her Gengar did flinch, I had pretty much won the battle.
Flinch chance is not only determined by the move itself, but also seems to be based on the speed difference between both Pokémon.I had my Umbreon use Dark Pulse to make her Gengar flinch every single time so I wouldn't lose. I had to restart a few times due to no flinching, but when her Gengar did flinch, I had pretty much won the battle.
At base level, Umbreon has 65 speed, whereas Gengar has 110; even in the unlikely situation where your Umbreon had a speed-boosting nature and the Gengar had one that reduced hers (I say her, since it's Karen's we're referring to), you'd still be going second after the ghost and your flinch chance would still be pretty low.
Anyway, another update; I've just cleared the eighth gym, my five Pokés are all in the mid-forties; going through Victory Road, wanted to pick up a Deino but doesn't seem to be any point since it has to breed for Dark Pulse. >.<
I had pretty much given every single Carbos I found to my Umbreon. Not sure what the nature was.
My Umbreon was fast, ok? If I didn't permanently lose my HG game I can tell you exactly how fast.
My Umbreon was fast, ok? If I didn't permanently lose my HG game I can tell you exactly how fast.
Originally Posted by Double A:
I had pretty much given every single Carbos I found to my Umbreon. Not sure what the nature was.
The Carbos are bad, mmmmkay? They're kinda useless for an Umbreon, since you're still going to be slow no matter how many you feed it.I had pretty much given every single Carbos I found to my Umbreon. Not sure what the nature was.
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My Umbreon was fast, ok? If I didn't permanently lose my HG game I can tell you exactly how fast.
Compared to what... Snorlax? Torkoal? Shuckle?My Umbreon was fast, ok? If I didn't permanently lose my HG game I can tell you exactly how fast.
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Karen's KO'd Gengar 
If it makes any difference, Umbreon was at least level 49 at the time. I had been hording my rare candies for the entire game, and I couldn't beat Karen. So I pretty much leveled up all my guys 2-3 levels. Umbreon got more because he was the one with the Dark moves.
Forgot to update.
*ahem*
UPDATE.
Caught Kyurem yesterday.
Always good to have a healthy supply of Dusk Balls.
*ahem*
UPDATE.
Caught Kyurem yesterday.
Always good to have a healthy supply of Dusk Balls.
An update from me, but you'll have to check past the spoiler tags.
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Arg...I hated that guy.
However, I taught my krookodile brick break, and wrecked that 3-headed freak.
It turns out its weak to fighting.
Oh, and while your training on victoly road, try catching a Heatmor.
Or you could train by facing the 4 again.
However, I taught my krookodile brick break, and wrecked that 3-headed freak.
It turns out its weak to fighting.
Oh, and while your training on victoly road, try catching a Heatmor.
Or you could train by facing the 4 again.
Turns out I didn't need to do anything drastic; I sent Excadrill out against the coffin-ghost-thing, used the fact it had no effective attacks to get three Swords Dances up, KO'd it with Earthquake.
Hydreigon immediately comes out, uses Fire Blast but it misses, eats a +6 X-Scissor in return; the rest of the team falls soon afterwards, I sit back and enjoy the ending... only to realise that everyone post-game has Pokémon at a minimum of 63 while my own were early-50s. Not so much a difficulty curve as an annoyance, really. >.<
Currently in the process of training an Adamant Magikarp to fill the last spot on my team, though I'm considering ditching Darmanitan and Reunculus if I can find better pre-Gen V Pokémon to fill the gaps. I want this Dream World feature to be launched now, rather than in two weeks. xD
Hydreigon immediately comes out, uses Fire Blast but it misses, eats a +6 X-Scissor in return; the rest of the team falls soon afterwards, I sit back and enjoy the ending... only to realise that everyone post-game has Pokémon at a minimum of 63 while my own were early-50s. Not so much a difficulty curve as an annoyance, really. >.<
Currently in the process of training an Adamant Magikarp to fill the last spot on my team, though I'm considering ditching Darmanitan and Reunculus if I can find better pre-Gen V Pokémon to fill the gaps. I want this Dream World feature to be launched now, rather than in two weeks. xD
Dark/Dragon, huh? That sucks. I guess I'm going to teach my Crookodile Brick Break. I do have a fighting Pokemon with Storm Throw. It only has 40 power, but it always criticals and gets STAB because it's a fighting move. I believe that's 120 power, plus high attack. That's like Revenge, but without reduced priority and having to get hit to make it work.
Originally Posted by Double A:
Dark/Dragon, huh? That sucks. I guess I'm going to teach my Crookodile Brick Break.
It's a pretty potent STAB combination, but the main problem is that it's best moves require Day Care breeding since they're no longer TMs. >.<Dark/Dragon, huh? That sucks. I guess I'm going to teach my Crookodile Brick Break.
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I do have a fighting Pokemon with Storm Throw. It only has 40 power, but it always criticals and gets STAB because it's a fighting move. I believe that's 120 power, plus high attack. That's like Revenge, but without reduced priority and having to get hit to make it work.
I found Throh to be a bit too slow for my liking... Mienshao seems to be good stats-wise, would train one if it wasn't for the limited movepool.I do have a fighting Pokemon with Storm Throw. It only has 40 power, but it always criticals and gets STAB because it's a fighting move. I believe that's 120 power, plus high attack. That's like Revenge, but without reduced priority and having to get hit to make it work.
Try using the Move tutor; you might out that your pokemon could learn moves you didn't think it could.
Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93:
Try using the Move tutor; you might out that your pokemon could learn moves you didn't think it could.
I use Smogon, Serebii and Bulbapedia; leave no stone unturned and all that. Try using the Move tutor; you might out that your pokemon could learn moves you didn't think it could.
You COULD just use.......Action Replay.
If you're that desperate, that is.
If you're that desperate, that is.
Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93:
You COULD just use.......Action Replay.
If you're that desperate, that is.
Desperate for what? Using cheat equipment like that flags the game cartridge as having been tampered with, anyways. You COULD just use.......Action Replay.
If you're that desperate, that is.
Still training my Gyarados, went with Jolly in the end for the added speed; it seems that you need an additional DS to use the PokéTransfer feature and copy 'mons over from DPPt/HGSS, though.. and I loaned my old one to a relative to play Black. I want an Espeon. xD
Okay, quick plea for assistance. I accidentally killed one of the roaming legendaries (beat the 8th gym, heading to Victory Road). Anyone know if beating the Elite 4 will reset him or do I have to reset the game to get him back?
-edit- a quick perusal of the interwebz tell me I'm good to go, but confirmation would be nice.
-edit- a quick perusal of the interwebz tell me I'm good to go, but confirmation would be nice.
Are you referring to Thundurus/Tornadus?
I honestly couldn't tell you; I used my Master Ball on him the first time I encountered him.
Could you post a link to which website stated the legendary would "respawn"?
I honestly couldn't tell you; I used my Master Ball on him the first time I encountered him.
Could you post a link to which website stated the legendary would "respawn"?
Yeah, that's the one.
No official word, but a few people on Gamespot forums have said it. That's why I was kinda asking here.
No official word, but a few people on Gamespot forums have said it. That's why I was kinda asking here.
Hmmm....Bulbapedia and Serebii don't mention anything about them returning after the Elite 4 is beaten.
And, as far as I know, Nintendo never did something like that in previous games.
I guess the only sure-fire way to find out is to beat the 4, then go back to route 7 and talk to the granny.
When I caught Thundurus, she said that someone had finally caught the pokemon.
She may also have a unique dialogue if it was beaten as well.
If that is true, check what she says before you face the 4, then see after you beat them.
If she is still talking like Thundurus/Tornadus is still roaming and not gone, chances are you can still catch him.
This is all speculation, mind you.
Also, If you do heed my advice and beat the four, you technically beat the main storyline, so there is no reason why you shouldn't restart if you wanted too.
And, as far as I know, Nintendo never did something like that in previous games.
I guess the only sure-fire way to find out is to beat the 4, then go back to route 7 and talk to the granny.
When I caught Thundurus, she said that someone had finally caught the pokemon.
She may also have a unique dialogue if it was beaten as well.
If that is true, check what she says before you face the 4, then see after you beat them.
If she is still talking like Thundurus/Tornadus is still roaming and not gone, chances are you can still catch him.
This is all speculation, mind you.
Also, If you do heed my advice and beat the four, you technically beat the main storyline, so there is no reason why you shouldn't restart if you wanted too.
No special dialogue, I'm going to go in and assume that beating the Four will reset it. I'll let you know what happens.
Ok then, good luck.
I'll be going to bed now; chances are I'll check this in the morning during school.
I'll be going to bed now; chances are I'll check this in the morning during school.
Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93:
Ok then, good luck.
I'll be going to bed now; chances are I'll check this in the morning during school.
Hahahaha, I won't be able to let you know for a few days at least. RL is destroying me, Shogun 2 just came out, and I'm a grinder anyway. Ok then, good luck.
I'll be going to bed now; chances are I'll check this in the morning during school.
Ok, I tried training that snowflake so I'd have a dragon killer. It dies faster than Jinx, despite me having taut it Blizzard and Frozen Breath. It gets other Pokemon down to red health before they 1HKO it. Turns out a lot of wild pokemon know fighting moves... I'm going to try that bear now. EXP share is so helpful.
Did anyone replace Razor Shell with Aqua Tail on Samurott? I haven't really used Razor Shell much at all since I got Surf.
Did anyone replace Razor Shell with Aqua Tail on Samurott? I haven't really used Razor Shell much at all since I got Surf.
Originally Posted by Double A:
Ok, I tried training that snowflake so I'd have a dragon killer. It dies faster than Jinx, despite me having taut it Blizzard and Frozen Breath. It gets other Pokemon down to red health before they 1HKO it. Turns out a lot of wild pokemon know fighting moves... I'm going to try that bear now. EXP share is so helpful.
That thing is bad; it's Sp.Def is great, Sp.Atk/Speed are decent... but the base 70 HP and 30 Def mean that any physical move, or indeed anything super-effective, will one-shot you. Congrats on catching one, but I wouldn't bother with using it to battle. :3Ok, I tried training that snowflake so I'd have a dragon killer. It dies faster than Jinx, despite me having taut it Blizzard and Frozen Breath. It gets other Pokemon down to red health before they 1HKO it. Turns out a lot of wild pokemon know fighting moves... I'm going to try that bear now. EXP share is so helpful.
Originally Posted by Double A:
Did anyone replace Razor Shell with Aqua Tail on Samurott? I haven't really used Razor Shell much at all since I got Surf.
Samurott's base Sp.Atk is slightly higher than it's Atk, but it has the benefit of learning powerful physical moves (X-Scissor/Megahorn, Night Slash via breeding) and Swords Dance... it's really dependent on nature, if you've got one that reduces Atk. then you're probably better off leaning towards Surf/Ice Beam/Grass Knot etc for your coverage.Did anyone replace Razor Shell with Aqua Tail on Samurott? I haven't really used Razor Shell much at all since I got Surf.
As for the physical move choice, Aqua Tail is better than Razor Shell; use that until you pick up the HM for Waterfall, which is slightly less damage than Aqua Tail but superior in terms of accuracy... the damage difference won't matter too much after a Swords Dance anyway.
That's why I stopped using Cryogannal. I only started because it took me 2 Pokéballs, 5 Great Balls, and 4 Ultra Balls to catch it.
When it was at 1HP. And Paralyzed.
When it was at 1HP. And Paralyzed.
For most of the year, there's only a 1% chance to encounter Cryogonal in the wild, though that chance does increase during Winter months (April, August, December)...
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Yeah, it's fall right now, obviously.
A little update from me before I crack on with the VotA writeup.
I caught all three of the Musketeer Trio, including an Adamant Virizion that I felt would be a fitting replacement for Serperior; I might use the ol' Grass Snake again someday, mebbe when the Dream World version is released and I can abuse it's ability with Leaf Storm. Until then, Virizion is destroying everything with Sacred Sword and Leaf Blade, so... tough luck, Smugleaf.
I also caught Volcarona within the Relic Castle, which I felt was pretty good going considering that my highest level at the time was Galvantula, at Lvl.55 (Volcarona is Lvl.70); tough fight, the thing likes to use Quiver Dance to boost it's stats and then destroy you with Bug Buzz/Heat Wave, but eventually overcame the moth... I've currently shoved it into the Day Care, along with it's pre-evolution that I received as an Egg on Route 18, so that I can start breeding for a Timid Larvesta.
My piecemeal team is currently Gyarados, Virizion, Galvantula and Reunculus; I'm considering adding Gliscor to the mix, not sure yet... maybe Chansey too, who is actually better than Blissey in terms of complete survivability if you give her that special stone that grants +50% Def/Sp.Def to Pokémon that can still evolve. Undecided, really.
Forgot to mention a little suggestion; catch a Tropius, it's far and away one of the best HM Slaves in the game. Mine is packing Strength, Cut, Fly and Flash... it's like a giant, leaf-winged Swiss Army Knife. <3
I caught all three of the Musketeer Trio, including an Adamant Virizion that I felt would be a fitting replacement for Serperior; I might use the ol' Grass Snake again someday, mebbe when the Dream World version is released and I can abuse it's ability with Leaf Storm. Until then, Virizion is destroying everything with Sacred Sword and Leaf Blade, so... tough luck, Smugleaf.
I also caught Volcarona within the Relic Castle, which I felt was pretty good going considering that my highest level at the time was Galvantula, at Lvl.55 (Volcarona is Lvl.70); tough fight, the thing likes to use Quiver Dance to boost it's stats and then destroy you with Bug Buzz/Heat Wave, but eventually overcame the moth... I've currently shoved it into the Day Care, along with it's pre-evolution that I received as an Egg on Route 18, so that I can start breeding for a Timid Larvesta.
My piecemeal team is currently Gyarados, Virizion, Galvantula and Reunculus; I'm considering adding Gliscor to the mix, not sure yet... maybe Chansey too, who is actually better than Blissey in terms of complete survivability if you give her that special stone that grants +50% Def/Sp.Def to Pokémon that can still evolve. Undecided, really.
Forgot to mention a little suggestion; catch a Tropius, it's far and away one of the best HM Slaves in the game. Mine is packing Strength, Cut, Fly and Flash... it's like a giant, leaf-winged Swiss Army Knife. <3
That pure dragon pokemon in the tower can learn Strength, Cut, and Fly (and maybe others). Flash isn't an HM any more, so you can just delete a TM move when you find a place that needs it, and then reteach the TM when you get out.
Still can't find Platinum or HG
Still can't find Platinum or HG
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