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    Default Re: how self-evident is democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post

    So while you obey politicians, the Queen serves me! She is my vassal!
    tut tut tut a politician is my/our representative they SERVE me/us, but unlike yourself I can also vote them out and even put myself forward on the ballot paper for election to Head of State.

    article 6.1 of the Irish constitutuion

    Article 6

    1. All powers of government, legislative, executive and judicial, derive, under God, from the people, whose right it is to designate the rulers of the State and, in final appeal, to decide all questions of national policy, according to the requirements of the common good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    On the other hand, I never signed over my sovereignty to some elected body like the do in the USA or Frenchland. Unlike them, I am free to rise up in arms against Elizabeth II as soon as I feel that she no longer governs in my interest, or the interest of the people as a whole. And this is the tradition of the great Protestant thinkers of old.
    hmm I cant think where it was someone actually did that, and they ended up in a Union or summit




    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    What's the difference between a King and a Statesman.

    A Good King believes he is charged with the protection of his realm by God, unto his death, but a Good Statesman in a democracy still has to worry about elections where the majority don't understand what they are voting for.
    I should not do justice to the warm impulse of my heart if I entered on the subject most unpleasant to my mind without first expressing that the cordial affection I have for Mr Pitt, as well as high opinions of his talents and integrity, greatly add to my uneasiness on this occasion; but a sense of religious as well as political duty has made me, from the moment I mounted the throne, consider the Oath that the wisdom of our forefathers has enjoined the Kings of this realm to take at their Coronation, and enforced by the obligation of instantly following it in the course of the ceremony with taking the Sacrament, as so binding a religious obligation on me to maintain the fundamental maxims on which our Constitution is placed, namely the Church of England being the established one, and that those who hold employment in the State must be members of it, and consequently obliged not only to take oaths against Popery, but to receive the Holy Communion agreeably to the rites of the Church of England.

    This principle of duty must therefore prevent me from discussing any proposition tending to destroy this groundwork of our happy Constitution, and much more so that now mentioned by Mr Pitt, which is no less than the complete overthrow of the whole fabric.
    King George the 3rd making his views know on Catholics and there right to emancipation, looks just like a grubby politicians statement to me from here so it does no imperial glory at all at all.

    Gimme some one who has a bit of fear of his electorate any day

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