Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
American Civil War shows what happens when people try to gain their freedom - destruction and transient suspension of habeus corpus. Pretend that things are different over there, but your government is as immovable as ours.

Habeus Corpus as written in the Constitution is allowed to be revoked during times of rebellion/insurrection. So your point there fails. Secondly, "gaining their freedom"? That's disgusting man. They rebelled so they could continue to whip slaves to pick cotton for them. If it was a real case of systematic government tyranny, the public would have been more united in their opposition against the government. The bottom line about the Civil War was that it wasn't an insurrection against the government, it was a cultural divide among the populace itself that manifested itself politically and then militarily.

Learn American history, and read about how the Civil War might as well have started with Bleeding Kansas when the public was already slaughtering each other with no governmental forces involved whatsoever.