Can't feed my people?!

**Grifman** · 03-19-2011, 01:11

Just wondering what to do now. I have the highest level of farms in all my provinces, yet they are all suffering food shortages and almost in rebellion. Surely there has to be an answer to this? Anyone got any ideas? Otherwise, I'm not sure how to go along much further in the game.

**Cecil XIX** · 03-19-2011, 02:06

Even if you fully upgrade your farms, they'll only give you four food per province. With a fully upgraded castle and market, a province can consume seven food. Your only solution is to tear down castles and markets.

**Grifman** · 03-19-2011, 02:15

Originally Posted by Cecil XIX

Even if you fully upgrade your farms, they'll only give you four food per province. With a fully upgraded castle and market, a province can consume seven food. Your only solution is to tear down castles and markets.

Yeah, I did do a lot of castles and markets. I guess you have to limit your economic development then, somewhat, if indeed this is the "solution".

**drone** · 03-19-2011, 02:55

How much food does the Chonindo art supply?

**Cecil XIX** · 03-19-2011, 03:01

Chonindo gives two, and the Sumo Tournament takes one.

**Zarky** · 03-19-2011, 05:51

I've been so lucky that I haven't ran into any food shortages yet, but I usually leave certain castles completely undeveloped. If I have the chance, I'll build large castles to provinces with right specialities, like warhorse province always deserves stables, encampment and at least yari and sword dojos. This of course limits the amount and quality of units I can swiftly recruit.

**Tora** · 03-19-2011, 08:28

Ditto.

Also I never go higher than markets - rice exchanges and above seem more trouble than they're worth mid game. By that time money may not be such a pressing issue anyway.

As Shimazu I had a Time of Plenty (or something like that) message come up some time after maxing out agriculture. Perhaps someone else will say if this a faction specific or random event. This took my food surplus up to an incredible 18 at one point and cured my famine fuelled riots at a stroke. Perhaps a good time to develop a few food consuming buildings.

**Daveybaby** · 03-19-2011, 11:04

Markets use food? DOH!
That would explain my starvation problems then.
*Slaps self around the face a bit*

Can i just say how much i'm enjoying the province/castle upgrade mechanism in this game. The limited building slots per castle level, plus castle upgrades being tied to food production, is genius. Forces you to specialise provinces, and plan ahead. Brilliant.

**Cecil XIX** · 03-19-2011, 19:46

One interesting thing I noticed is that your food surplus gives a bonus to the growth of town wealth in all your provinces. I'm not certain, but it seems to me that if you had 15 provinces and a food surplus of +5 (which wouldn't be that hard), then each province would have it's wealth grow by +5 per turn. That would mean each turn your income increases by 75! If you were able to limit yourself to low-level castles and markets, you could generate a great deal of wealth that way.

**Napoleon The Emperor Of Europe** · 03-19-2011, 23:32

Originally Posted by Grifman

Just wondering what to do now. I have the highest level of farms in all my provinces, yet they are all suffering food shortages and almost in rebellion. Surely there has to be an answer to this? Anyone got any ideas? Otherwise, I'm not sure how to go along much further in the game.

Have you done a low tax rate?

I'd say..maybe have a Upgraded castle,or do something else(Go and conqer a province)Why?It may steer your people out of rebellion,who knows?

**Diamondeye** · 03-19-2011, 23:44

A good alternative to markets, in my opinion, is sake houses... They also pacify the populace so you can push taxes in a tight spot.

But yeah, lots of farms, limit use of markets, and keep stronghold+s to the occassional bastion...

**Cecil XIX** · 03-20-2011, 00:10

I would say to use the basic markets in every province. They don't consume food, they provide a metsuke and they give the best wealth bonus. Definitely a great building to have. Certainly upgrades should be limited, though.