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    Boy's Guard Senior Member LeftEyeNine's Avatar
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    Okay, I couldn't resist the tempting lure of my Nippon-o-philia and got my hands on ŞOOGÜN TUU TOOTIL VOOR.

    After my first 3 attempts at Shimazu clan dominion having been way prematurely foiled by Shoni clan, in my 4th go, I preferred amassing an army without caring for the upkeep cost, forged a marriage-supported alliance with the Sagara, and then captured Osumi province from the Ito.

    Based on previous experiences I waited for a Shoni invasion into Hyuga (had happened thrice), hence cutting off the breath of Ito clan but, I guess, flourishing on my trustworthy alliance that was ornamented with indefinitely-agreed military access as well, I saw Sagara, surprisingly, -'cause they were all peaceful before- erasing traces of the Ito clan, getting me locked away from any progress.

    After replenishing the whole army, while being harrassed by Shoni warships at my bay, hence preventing me from naval trade, I set up an army of around 2000~ men and, woefully stabbed Sagara in the back. I can't say I was provocated by their revoking of military access rights though. Still their land was the only way to go. So I crushed a 1200-men defense at their capital, Higo, and captured it.

    It's 1553 now and I got only 3 provinces: Satsuma, Osumi and recently-captured, wealthy and advanced Higo with two allied hostiles (Sagara + Shoni) on the island of Kyushu.

    Do you think I'm too late for short-campaign dominance ? Especially considering that I can't support another army (the 2000 men is almost intact though) and have an income of around 800 koku (?), huh ?

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    Definitely too slow. You should be in a good position to get a leg up on the trade nodes; get as much money together as you can and start banging heads.
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    Default Re: Too Slow ?

    Well I go down that route, I can't build an army even strong enough to stand up against Ito. My 1st game was demolished because of going Shogun 2 TW Civilization.

    Now I got an army but economy is just on its toes already.

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    I'm in a similar boat LEN. I'm trying to build up my economy to support a few armies, which leaves almost nothing to grow the army very fast - let alone the navy...and I'm Mori, I'm supposed to rule the sea. I'm finally getting some funds for the army, but not enough and the buildings are getting more expensive. I've got to try to grab a few more (rich) provinces. I've given up on winning my short campaign, but I plug along and try to learn as much this campaign and hold out as long as I can. My dreams of being Shogun are crushed by the reality of my situation.
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    Well currently in my Hojo campaign.I tried my best to protect my back while I made short work off Ogigayatsu Uesugi, by forging alliance with Takeda. Shortly after Satake decided to declare war on me and just when i was about to destroy them.Uesugi who had grown pretty powerful by taking the Southern part of Mutsu and Dewa declared war on me, while Takeda backstabbed me by joining Uesugi, while they own Northern Shinano, Etchu. Noto, Hida and Kai. So now my alliance of my Clan, Imagawa,Satomi and Satake whom i had to make vassal are fighting alliance of Uesugi, Takeda,Kiso and Yamanouchi Uesugi. So to put it short Kanto is on fire right now and i cant gather enough forces against either Uesugi or Takeda to kick one of them out from the war.Im loving this game!
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    Default Re: Too Slow ?

    That's WW Japan TW, Kage, not Shogun 2.

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    I began a long Shimazu campaign on normal difficulty as it was rated as easy. Having never played the game before (obviously) I didn’t want additional challenges without knowing how things work.

    I can’t really say that it’s been all that easy. It’s about 1555 now and I have subdued all of Kyushu and 3 trade nodes. I have also put down 2 peasant rebellions. Taxes are normal. I am presently at war with no one, trading with 7 clans and am building post roads everywhere. The plan is to allow fast movement so that a smaller garrison will be needed to protect the island from naval invasion. The navy is getting some attention also because I rely heavily on trade.

    One province, Bungo IIRC, is 100% Christian and these guys have already revolted once. In fact they killed my daimyo as he defended his castle. I built a Buddhist temple there but it can’t overcome the effects of the nanban port that is on the coast. To help control these people I decided to build a level 3 castle that uses 3 food. I overlooked the fact that Bungo produces only 2 food and now I must alter my arts pursuits to get to terraced farming sooner than I intended. I considered burning the nanban port but it is valuable and worth trying to accommodate. I may still end up destroying it if the rebellions continue. I have no plans to convert the daimyo to Christianity.

    I have no allies but have married off a daughter to the Date who are both well to do and powerful. I have no idea how long peace will reign but while it does I will continue to invest in my infrastructure. I have a couple of ninjas, a couple of monks and a metsuke keeping an eye on things.

    Tactically I have found the AI to be aggressive. It almost always attacks regardless of who the aggressor is on the strategic map.

    A long campaign has many turns. The need to move expand rapidly and continuously just isn’t there. It looks like moving cautiously with an occasional bold move is the way to go. Of course, I haven’t finished yet either…
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    Default Re: Too Slow ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson View Post
    I began a long Shimazu campaign on normal difficulty as it was rated as easy. Having never played the game before (obviously) I didn’t want additional challenges without knowing how things work.

    I can’t really say that it’s been all that easy. It’s about 1555 now and I have subdued all of Kyushu and 3 trade nodes.

    *commits seppuku*
    Last edited by LeftEyeNine; 03-22-2011 at 16:38.

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