Question for Strike and the other buff getting buff buffs

[Vuk]

dont ask for weight lifting help if your going to rag on it and talk about how strong and superior you are.

lol, that is not what I was doing. I asked Strike what he meant by 'complacent'. I would not be asking for help if I did not want it. Also, I never said that I was stronger than anyone. I simply pointed out (in response to Strike's question) that raw strength is not always what you need for real work.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hey Strike and Cent, whats the name of that lame exercise you guys do? I want to know what its like to exercise without doing work.

[Centurion1]

well when i feel particularly ambitious i try to keep up my football physique by using the wii instead of the xbox. but you know nothing really beats the walk down the stairs to the dinner table.

[a completely inoffensive name]

well when i feel particularly ambitious i try to keep up my football physique by using the wii instead of the xbox. but you know nothing really beats the walk down the stairs to the dinner table.

I know what you mean. Sometimes, I exert myself more than I should by going down and up the stairs again for a second piece of cake to eat in my room, while I play Fallout: New Vegas.

[Vuk]

As I said earlier, I define work as something that you have to do, and that accomplishes an external purpose. Lifting weights is something that you choose to do so you will look hotter, and it you only accomplish boosting your own body and self-esteem.
I was not bashing working-out, just explaining to Strike why I did not call it real work (for the same reason I would not call training in martial arts real work, though it requires great effort and a large time commitment).
And I never said that lifting will not get you more muscle than work, I simply explained to Strike that having the muscle is not enough if you do not know how to use it for a particular type of work. Real work trains you to use your muscles together, and gives them endurance.
Pardon me if I insulted something sacred by saying that, I did not realize how sensitize everyone was on the matter. Let me make it clear, yes, I realize that you will get a lot of muscle by lifting correctly, and that is why I asked the question. I only compared it to work to answer Strikes question. Sheesh.

[Strike For The South]

When a 340 pound man puts you in a headlock not all of the neck curls and head presses in the world will save you. You said your head was about to pop off, you were no where near getting out of that headlock. You can either

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As I said earlier, I define work as something that you have to do, and that accomplishes an external purpose. Lifting weights is something that you choose to do so you will look hotter, and it you only accomplish boosting your own body and self-esteem.
I was not bashing working-out, just explaining to Strike why I did not call it real work (for the same reason I would not call training in martial arts real work, though it requires great effort and a large time commitment).

Your body does not know the difference between a rock and a dumbell, if weights don't work why does everyone use them. How come NFL teams have weight rooms instead of rural Wisconsin farms? To your body weights is work, that's why you get stronger LOGIC. I have heard the non functional muscle debate since people started realizing I lifted. I tune these people out becuase they are usually fat gelatinous slobs or rail thin unhealthy people surviving on processed foods. My muscle is functional in everyday life

My time in the gym is directly tied with what I eat and how I sleep. I don't do this b/c of some girl or to boost my ego. I do it because I love the high I get after I pull heavy, the callouses on my hands and sweat on my brow when I finsih You mistake me for a weekend warrior and that is your own folly

And I never said that lifting will not get you more muscle than work, I simply explained to Strike that having the muscle is not enough if you do not know how to use it for a particular type of work. Real work trains you to use your muscles together, and gives them endurance.

So what are compound movements then? Have you ever seen someone squat or deadlift? Which muscle are they isolating there?

Pardon me if I insulted something sacred by saying that, I did not realize how sensitize everyone was on the matter. Let me make it clear, yes, I realize that you will get a lot of muscle by lifting correctly, and that is why I asked the question. I only compared it to work to answer Strikes question. Sheesh.

Meh, you're wrong but this time you're wrong with a whole bunch of other people. I have given advice to members on this forum that has tangiable results I know what I do is right. So you can either listen to me or continue going no where fast

But don't start a thread with my name in it only to piss on me when I tell you what will work simply due to your pre conceived notions of what I or my sport is

[Centurion1]

or how about a hang clean or a push press. Your telling me picking up rocks creates more muscle than weightlifting. the only thing that does is create a higherrisk of stupid injuries in your back.

[Vuk]

When a 340 pound man puts you in a headlock not all of the neck curls and head presses in the world will save you. You said your head was about to pop off, you were no where near getting out of that headlock. You can either

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Your body does not know the difference between a rock and a dumbell, if weights don't work why does everyone use them. How come NFL teams have weight rooms instead of rural Wisconsin farms? To your body weights is work, that's why you get stronger LOGIC. I have heard the non functional muscle debate since people started realizing I lifted. I tune these people out becuase they are usually fat gelatinous slobs or rail thin unhealthy people surviving on processed foods. My muscle is functional in everyday life

My time in the gym is directly tied with what I eat and how I sleep. I don't do this b/c of some girl or to boost my ego. I do it because I love the high I get after I pull heavy, the callouses on my hands and sweat on my brow when I finsih You mistake me for a weekend warrior and that is your own folly

So what are compound movements then? Have you ever seen someone squat or deadlift? Which muscle are they isolating there?


Meh, you're wrong but this time you're wrong with a whole bunch of other people. I have given advice to members on this forum that has tangiable results I know what I do is right. So you can either listen to me or continue going no where fast

But don't start a thread with my name in it only to piss on me when I tell you what will work simply due to your pre conceived notions of what I or my sport is

You either don't or won't understand what I was saying Strike, but it was not my intent to insult power training. I know it builds strong muscles, which is why I asked for your help. Also, how did I not take your advice? I asked you a question (which you did not answer) as to what you meant. I was not trying to be argumentative, but simply to understand what you meant.