Chinese Zodiac Mafia 2- The rise of the new council. [Concluded]

**Secura** · 04-18-2011, 14:41

Originally Posted by Double A

This isn't a regular mafia game, Secura, or have you not been paying attention to the lynches?

You're just deflecting my arguments without a valid response, though; that's mightily frustrating.

Earlier, you claimed that there was only one other townie remaining aside of yourself, but you still haven't explained how you are aware of this; you claim that there's been no revealed scum in the writeups, yet alignments are not revealed upon death anyway, just as was the case in the previous game.

Nor are you able to properly explain how you know that this game will not adhere to 1:1, despite the fact that it's one of the innate rules of mafia; if the final day begins with one mafia and one townie, why would it go to lynch when the mafia could just stab him or whatever? Why does everyone bar myself seem to ignore this fact?

If you're correct that there are currently two town and two mafia, then the game is already lost no matter who you lynch; with all your flimsy rebuttals, I only have one conclusion to make... Double A, j'accuse.

Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93

Crikey, I never even got a chance to be the leader....
Only the human would kill to stay in power!
RAWR KILL.

And yet I don't have the power in my hands, since I'm not controlling today's vote.

Yesterday, I suggested that today's lynch should be levied at either yourself or Double A as you were both next on my list of suspects; what I didn't realise at the time, is that the both of you were the only remaining players who had not controlled the day vote, since I had it on D2, Pizza on D3 and JHT on D4.

Your death meant that Double A came into control of the vote as the sole remaining player who had not previously had the opportunity; stands to reason that a mafioso is now in control of the vote, thus the game is over... he's just toying with us.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

*groan* I hate to point a finger at Secura here, because I don't want her to get mad at me if I am wrong, and even if I'm right, it wouldn't really make her day.

This makes me sound like a cry-baby!

Basically, if you have a valid reason to vote, I'm more than fine with that, but when it's a case of "Secura's gone quiet, let's ignore the fact that she may be having real life issues!" as it was in CoV, then I have something to say about it! :D

**Double A** · 04-18-2011, 15:47

Originally Posted by Secura

You're just deflecting my arguments without a valid response, though; that's mightily frustrating.

Earlier, you claimed that there was only one other townie remaining aside of yourself, but you still haven't explained how you are aware of this; you claim that there's been no revealed scum in the writeups, yet alignments are not revealed upon death anyway, just as was the case in the previous game.

Nor are you able to properly explain how you know that this game will not adhere to 1:1, despite the fact that it's one of the innate rules of mafia; if the final day begins with one mafia and one townie, why would it go to lynch when the mafia could just stab him or whatever? Why does everyone bar myself seem to ignore this fact?

If you're correct that there are currently two town and two mafia, then the game is already lost no matter who you lynch; with all your flimsy rebuttals, I only have one conclusion to make... Double A, j'accuse.

I thought they were revealed, that could mean there is only one scum. That's considerably better. This is just a theory, but I think that if I lynch the wrong animal today (or first mafia) and mafia kills tonight, there is a chance that the random voting order will continue. Hopefully a townie would get it, then they would be able to lynch the other player (aka mafia).

And... uh... if you haven't noticed, I'm horrible at rebuttals. I always have been.

**autolycus** · 04-18-2011, 19:03

I think Secura's scum and likely the only scum left. In a game where only one person gets to vote each day, the 1:1 rule isn't necessarily binding. In my large Buffy game, an outright majority was required for any given scum team to win. She wanted to get one of the two who hadn't had vote control lynched yesterday, in which case a murder last night could have given the vote back to her. Kill her, kill her dead.

**Secura** · 04-18-2011, 20:17

Originally Posted by autolycus

She wanted to get one of the two who hadn't had vote control lynched yesterday, in which case a murder last night could have given the vote back to her.

This statement would hold more water if I hadn't suggested LocalGod for the lynch yesterday; I suggested Double A/Fluffy for today's lynch.

Furthermore, would I not have had to rely on the numbers game to receive the vote again? Had the two people who hadn't controlled the vote been lynched/killed, it would have resulted in a 25% chance to get the vote control again, against Pizza/JHT/LocalGod.

I don't deal in chances that low, I'm afraid.

**Double A** · 04-18-2011, 21:10

But 50/50, that might be a chance you're willing to take...

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-18-2011, 21:50

Kill Secura.

**Secura** · 04-18-2011, 21:55

Originally Posted by Double A

But 50/50, that might be a chance you're willing to take...

Those are still unfavourable odds; I don't deal in off-chances or maybe-maybe-nots, Double A.

You've heard the opinion of all three living players aside of yourself, you should just end it; your behaviour thus far is indicative of mafia, so it's probably a moot point at this stage anyway.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Kill Secura.

I think you're too late, Pizza.

**Double A** · 04-19-2011, 07:14

Pizza and Secura have been extremely vocal, but jht hasn't said much at all. I did that as mafia in a Dethy game with Secura and Sasaki, just waiting for the town to rip itself apart and sit on the sidelines... so why wouldn't he?

vote: jht