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    lol, not me, my bro. Yes, he has created scale models of several variants in Auto-CAD, refitted two of his guns test his design, and I have been helping him write up a presentation of it. We don't have a complete working model (nor the money or equipment to build one or have one built), but he has two guns modified to test some of the concepts.
    Write now we just don't know who to contact. :P
    You likely know this, but be careful making functional firearms. Weapons that can fire fully automatically lead quickly to prison time without extensive permits. That's aside from the more mundane dangers from explosions.

    Per Secura, you're best bet is a smaller manufacturer of rifles. Magpul, I believe, just makes accessories. But there are a lot of smaller manufacturers who might pay attention to a good idea and presentation - though I'd imagine they get lots of stupid ideas from lots of foolish people, meaning they have screening systems anyone with a good idea would have to get through.

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    You likely know this, but be careful making functional firearms. Weapons that can fire fully automatically lead quickly to prison time without extensive permits. That's aside from the more mundane dangers from explosions.

    Per Secura, you're best bet is a smaller manufacturer of rifles. Magpul, I believe, just makes accessories. But there are a lot of smaller manufacturers who might pay attention to a good idea and presentation - though I'd imagine they get lots of stupid ideas from lots of foolish people, meaning they have screening systems anyone with a good idea would have to get through.

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    Don't worry CR, we did nothing illegal. :P One was a bolt-action (we were testing the stock design and recoil suppression) rifle we refitted, and the other was semi-auto. We unfortunately cannot build a fully auto, fully functioning gun, so we are testing each part of the design one at a time as best as we can.
    I see your point with smaller manufacturers, but isn't it true that with a smaller company it would be unlikely that they would ever be produced on mass? To be honest, it is not money that we are concerned with; we just want the US military to have the best equipment available, and we think we have something that could give them a serious edge. As long as the Marines end up using it, we will be happy. :P

    EDIT: That said though, the design would carry over perfectly into civilian rifles. :)
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    It may also be wise to make sure they can't just say "thanks for the idea, we'll try it, now bugger off" and then claim it as their own idea.
    A patent would seem like the most logical choice but I have no idea whether or what that costs.
    In the process of getting a patent you might also find out whether or not someone else has already had or tried the same idea.


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    It may also be wise to make sure they can't just say "thanks for the idea, we'll try it, now bugger off" and then claim it as their own idea.
    A patent would seem like the most logical choice but I have no idea whether or what that costs.
    In the process of getting a patent you might also find out whether or not someone else has already had or tried the same idea.
    hmmm...thanks, that is probably a good idea. Does anyone have any idea how that would be done? :P
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    hmmm...To be honest, this doesn't fill me with confidence though. :P
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    Yeah, better hire a gunsmith and start working on your own guns!


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    Yeah, better hire a gunsmith and start working on your own guns!
    I talked to my bro about it, and we decided to just submit it without a patent. We are both planning on working for a living anyway, and our main priority is that it gets built and issued to the military. We don't have the money to invest in hiring a gunsmith to help us make it, so we really don't have a choice anyway. Ideally, that is the way we would like to go, but we cannot afford it and probably won't be able to for several years. (and by then, it could be too late)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I talked to my bro about it, and we decided to just submit it without a patent. We are both planning on working for a living anyway, and our main priority is that it gets built and issued to the military. We don't have the money to invest in hiring a gunsmith to help us make it, so we really don't have a choice anyway. Ideally, that is the way we would like to go, but we cannot afford it and probably won't be able to for several years. (and by then, it could be too late)
    So what's this idea, anyways, that's so great the military will adopt it but no one's thought of before?

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