Submitting Gun Concept

**Crazed Rabbit** · 04-03-2011, 01:06

Originally Posted by Vuk

I talked to my bro about it, and we decided to just submit it without a patent. We are both planning on working for a living anyway, and our main priority is that it gets built and issued to the military. We don't have the money to invest in hiring a gunsmith to help us make it, so we really don't have a choice anyway. Ideally, that is the way we would like to go, but we cannot afford it and probably won't be able to for several years. (and by then, it could be too late)

So what's this idea, anyways, that's so great the military will adopt it but no one's thought of before?

CR

**PershsNhpios** · 04-03-2011, 01:11

Well, first of all - is it a concept for a gun, or for a rifle?

Here Mr. General sir, look at my new conshept for a gun. It has lasers, two grenade launchers and can shoot around corners. Do you like it? I drew it all in black crayon like the grown-ups.

**Vuk** · 04-03-2011, 02:02

It is my brother's design primarily, and not mine to talk about. Leave the witty comments to yourself please Glenn, as they are off-topic. The thread is about how to submit a design, and what you posted has nothing to do with that.
@CR It is a modular weapons system that can be modified to fill the needs of assault rifle, sub-machine gun, PDW, light machine gun (using a slightly different open bolt design with a different feed system), and the design can also be used for sniper rifles. Right now we are concentrating on the basic assault rifle (ours is chambered for 7.62X51 NATO, but we also have the design for the same one in 5.56). As I said, it is my brother's gun, so I cannot say much about it, but it will have significantly less recoil than modern rifles, be much more compact AND have a much longer barrel, hold a potential for a far large magazine capacity, be completely ambidextrous, highly customizable, and far more convenient than either a standard stock rifle or a bull-pup.
Doubt all you want, but we have been able to test and verify almost all of that with our semi-auto prototype.

**PershsNhpios** · 04-03-2011, 03:03

Holy mother of God! Look no further!

It is both much more compact AND longer! It is sub-machine gun but ALSO machine gun! It is assault rifle! But ALSO sniper rifle! It is chambered for larger cartridge - but ALSO has less recoil!

This rifle isn't just ambidextrous - it's also ambiguous!

I think I will design a modular weapons system too - I will design a plastic handle, trigger guard and modifiable butt - and this will be completely compliant with the demands of any requirement in any modern weapon!

**Vuk** · 04-03-2011, 03:22

Originally Posted by Glenn

Holy mother of God! Look no further!

It is both much more compact AND longer! It is sub-machine gun but ALSO machine gun! It is assault rifle! But ALSO sniper rifle! It is chambered for larger cartridge - but ALSO has less recoil!

This rifle isn't just ambidextrous - it's also ambiguous!

I think I will design a modular weapons system too - I will design a plastic handle, trigger guard and modifiable butt - and this will be completely compliant with the demands of any requirement in any modern weapon!

lol, I thought that would get you screaming. :P No, it is not a machine gun or a sniper rifle, but ones could be built using the same basic design. And no, it is not both more compact and longer. The gun is more compact and the barrel is longer. I am sure that you can figure it out. :) And I never said that it did or didn't have less recoil than an assault rifle of another caliber. I only compared it to something of its own caliber. (it can be chambered to .308 and .223)
Are you done trolling now?

**Proletariat** · 04-03-2011, 04:06

Not gonna weigh in my guess on how successful this will be, but as far as the patent stuff goes.. Just copy a bunch of photos or diagrams or whatever and mail them to yourself. Keep them sealed when it comes back to you and if you ever really need to prove it was you and your brother's idea, show the judge the post marked date and let him open it.

Also mount a sling shot on the top rail above the scope where baby octosquids can be fired from.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 04-03-2011, 05:58

I'm pretty sure we want a special octosquid targeting system. Why, your way seems like it could be an octosquid weapon!*

As for mailing stuff, you could also email yourself some stuff, or get a notary to sign documents you've produced in regards to the weapon.

As for the rifle - well, it'd be interesting to see a working firearm. I am curious as to how it's shorter with a longer barrel yet not a bullpup (for non-gun folks; a bullpup design is where the magazine/receiver is located behind the trigger, like the current British assault rifle). As far as I know, modular (interchangeable rifle/LMG/etc) systems are already possible with bullpup designs.

CR

*Okay, maybe firing their young from guns isn't what the octosquids would do. But we must be ever-vigilant in our hunt for octosquid collaborators! I suppose, since you propose using their children as ammunition, you aren't one.