EB - Questions and first thoughts

[Ksifos]

Hello all.

I am a veteran vanilla VH/VH RTW/BI player and since I am an ancient era fan I decided to give EB a go for the challenge.I chose Koinon Hellinon, Med/Med to get the grasp of the game.
At first I thouht it should be hard because Macedonia had a bunch of army stacks and even lost Athens.But later on when I built my economy it was very easy.I am now going to try on VH/H as most suggest.

Overall my first impression is WTF! I can not believe the community has built such a nice, historically detailed and challenging mod.My
respect to the creators.

I have a question.While I patched with 1.2 in EB folder (when asked in the installation prompt) I have version 1.1 at the bottom left and comparing the units to those advertised on the main site of EB they are not the same? Probably I have not patched to 1.2 but why?

Also in Sparta I can not build a government type.Is that normal or a bug?

Thanks.

[The Celtic Viking]

Hello and welcome to the org!

The answer to your first question is that you should install 1.2 into your Rome - Total War folder (the same place you installed 1.1), and not the EB folder. I can't answer the second question about Sparta, though.

[Ksifos]

Hello Celtic Viking.

You were right about patching, now I am on 1.2
What is strange, I loaded my 1.1 save and started normally.Still no new units are available as shown in this page.

Maybe I have to start a new game which I plan to do.

Thanks for replying.

[fomalhaut]

what units are you missing?
it could be a few things you are missing;
You don't have the correct regional or factional barracks built.

The 'factional' units like the Distinguished Hoplites and Rhodian Slingers are mostly going to be recrutable in Sparta (for Spartans), Rhodes (Slingers), Corinth and Athens, etc.
This isn't RTW where you can recruit Praetorian Guards from Rhodos and England, but must recruit from the native populace and their own fighting styles. So the farther you leave from Hellas, the more locals you will have to rely on.

If you are looking for the Macedonian style phalanx, that is dependent on a reform though im not sure which.

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

Hello Celtic Viking.

You were right about patching, now I am on 1.2
What is strange, I loaded my 1.1 save and started normally.Still no new units are available as shown in this page.

Maybe I have to start a new game which I plan to do.

Thanks for replying.

Yes, save games from 1.1 are not compatible with 1.2 - so starting new campaign is essential.

[vollorix]

Macedon style phalanx ( aka phalangitai ) are available for Koinon Helenion after the March of Time "reform" happens ( the vanilla "Marian Reform" when Romans have to build a huge city in Italy, not Roma, though ).

[Ksifos]

Well I started a new v1.2, VH/H campaign.

I quickly grabbed Creta and Korinthos.Currently I am besieging Chalkis.Obviously Macedonians are pissed off and are targetting Athens.
In contrast with my 'easy' game their navy prevailed and I am on the run in the sea.This is going to be fun :-)

Now I am in the minus so cant build anything, but my question was about government building type in Sparta, because in my v1.1 game that wasnt possible and as a result I couldnt recruit any decent units, despite having the top barracks built.Is this normal?

Second, in the EB page it says I can recruit Spartiatai Hoplitai and other Elite units.Is this now possible and where? In Sparta only?
Also there is a second barracks type building which havent yet understood its purpose.Any help is appreciated.

Thanks for the replies guys.

PS - Greek generals on foot! That unit is solid steel!