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    Default Re: EB - Questions and first thoughts

    IIRC, Epirus besieging Aetolia should trigger a script and put you at war with them.

    My experience shows that Epirus as a buffer state doesn't work; they either get stomped by SPQR or it works too well (Epirus possessing the whole illyrian coast) and they become a problem for you. Then, they eventually get crushed between SPQR and you, and in the best case scenario, get exiled in Central Europe.
    Mind you, in the meantime, Epirus does a fine job building KH-friendly structures (I'm thinking mines and barracks ripe for the taking.)

    I don't think building a local MIC in Sparta serves any purpose; the client ruler/general you may recruit is not worth sacrificing the higher tier of buildings you could reach with a homeland goverment. Wait, the recruitment of client ruler is now tied to the lvl4 building itself... So, no purpose whatsoever in doing so in Sparta.

    For your recruitment need, check the Recruitment Viewer which should come installed with EB, and,
    http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php

    More on recruitment:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...nt-information
    Last edited by Poulp'; 04-05-2011 at 17:23. Reason: glaring mistake about client rulers

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    Poulp - You got it pretty right.I was forced to redesign my strategy.I wanted to capture Pergamon and Halikarnassos so that I would boost my sea trade, which I think is vital for getting a strong economy as Greece.But Seleucids got there first :-P
    So now I turned on Epirus and hope to establish friendly relations with the Senate, for serving two purposes.Take advantage of the Adriatic intertrade since I believe Epirus now is a possible target and earn some time before Romans invade Greece.
    Only thing that worries me is that AI has advanced in tech and I have to build numbers in case the inevitable happens.

    Still learning the game but all things I see are well designed and to the right direction.Like for example roads add to law, that's very correct.
    Maybe CA should give this mod the proper attention and get some useful ideas for the next series of RTW.

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    I actually like turning Epirotes into Illyrians, while playing KH, once their cities are ripe, as Poulp noticed.
    If they survive long enough, they might have built large mines in Illyria by then - another full harvest ;)
    - 10 mov. points :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by vollorix View Post
    I actually like turning Epirotes into Illyrians, while playing KH, once their cities are ripe, as Poulp noticed.
    If they survive long enough, they might have built large mines in Illyria by then - another full harvest ;)
    Thanks for the tip.

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    i normally try to dislodge the epirotes as fast as possible and them pay them a small fortune so as they keep fighting in tarentum if worked properly (and it happens 15% of the cases i tried both with maks aswell as with kh) they take arpis messana rhegion and develop that entire area while keeping the romans under pressure wich enables me to reach with a diplomat in time to the aedui to forge an alliance and send a quick stack to take bononia and gift it to them (not patavium tough you want the silver mines of segestica at full work)

    quick advice save up a bit and hurry up taking naissos and building forts on the river passages of the danube that normally leaves the getai fighting the triballoi (?) and they won´t bother you for a few decades (as in they won´t venture south of the danube except for kallatis wich they normally take )

    also the money cows are dalmatia must have develop fast and build the best mines as fast as possible 6.300 mnai per turn and also makedonia 4.800 mnai per turn are your best economical aproach and remember mining might not get you snow white fast but it helps paying for her presents later :P

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    moonburn - thanks for the nice ideas.Still the game sometimes leads your strategies than yourself.To add to that, I am amazed of how well the whole faction system is balanced, avoiding the gangbanging tactics of vanilla.My hats off to the moders - once again.

    I had two unepxected events, the Pergamon and Hellikarnasos under Seleucid control, rebelled and put my flag.That immediately put me into war with Seleucid and had to disperse my units in three different fronts.I am already in a long war with Epiroted but I cant beat them.I was blind to think of them as an easy prey and that reminded me of two things.First scout well, second do not underestimate the Elite units in EB :-P
    Macedonia presses me in the northern front, continually besieging Demetrias.Had to fight there too, and finally built a stone wall to get some basic protection.
    I now have the money but...having NOT payed attention I spent all population of Athens into retraining my armies (my main tech city) and now no more good units for me.That's where mercenaries come into play.Another aspect very well designed in EB (city manpower, use of mercs).
    Good thing is Epirote is also drained and does not attack with Elite units but more with mercs armies.
    Probably my next step is getting Pella as you sugest.

    Overall my BEST game in RTW.Gone to "Continue Campaign". :-D

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    yeah wait till Sinope or Massilia defect to you THAT is where problems start :D and there is more to come ;)
    "Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost."
    - Pyrrhus of Epirus

    "Durch diese hohle Gasse muss er kommen..."
    - Leonidas of Sparta

    "People called Romanes they go the House"
    - Alaric the Visigoth

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