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    Default Morale, Valour, Naval combat

    I almost always play MTW campaign on Normal/Hard, and fight only auto-caluclated battles, cuz my battle mode doesn't work.

    So, first of all, I want to know what exactly is Morale, and how does it effect troops. I suppose it makes them more immune to routing and wavering? The problem is, I'm not able to see the morale count of a particular unit, so I want to know if it's memorized correctly for every single unit I train.
    I also want to know, does it affect auto-calculated battle results in any way.

    Secondly, Valour is, as far as I know equivalent to Experience from RTW. However some of the Valour-adding building seem to malfunct (like Master Spearmaker, Master Swrd, Master Stables...). I suppose those buildings only add valour to units that are produced in them (for example, Master Stables adds +1 valour to cavalry), but that is not the case. Anyone knows why I don't receive correct morale improvements?

    And finally, how are naval combat results calculated? I think that when you attack with a fleet, your Attack is the relative attribute, while the enemy's defense is relative on his part, but I'm not sure. Also, are there any ships efficient in coastal combat and are there ones that are efficient in deep sea ones?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Morale, Valour, Naval combat

    Quote Originally Posted by VersusAllOdds View Post
    So, first of all, I want to know what exactly is Morale, and how does it effect troops. I suppose it makes them more immune to routing and wavering? The problem is, I'm not able to see the morale count of a particular unit, so I want to know if it's memorized correctly for every single unit I train.
    I also want to know, does it affect auto-calculated battle results in any way.
    Each unit has a morale value, based on their unit base stats, their valour, any recruitment bonuses, and battlefield situation modifiers. The value puts the unit into 5 different categories: 10+ (Impetuous), 2 to 14 (Steady), -5 to 5 (Unsteady), -14 to -5 (Wavering), and -6 or lower (Routing). The categories overlap to cover transition states when morale values rise or fall during battle. I've never been clear about how morale is stored, valour is maintained for each individual trooper, this may be the same with armour/weapon/morale upgrades.

    That aside, I'm not sure if individual unit morale has any effect in auto-calc battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by VersusAllOdds View Post
    Secondly, Valour is, as far as I know equivalent to Experience from RTW. However some of the Valour-adding building seem to malfunct (like Master Spearmaker, Master Swrd, Master Stables...). I suppose those buildings only add valour to units that are produced in them (for example, Master Stables adds +1 valour to cavalry), but that is not the case. Anyone knows why I don't receive correct morale improvements?
    I believe the valour bonus only applies if the building line is the first one stated in the build requirements column in the unit_prod file. So for example, Mounted Sergeants. Their building requirements entry is "{SPEARMAKER2, HORSE_BREEDER2}", which is Spearmaker's Workshop and Horse Breeder. They will only get the valour bonus from a Master Spearmaker, not from a Master Horse Breeder.

    Quote Originally Posted by VersusAllOdds View Post
    And finally, how are naval combat results calculated? I think that when you attack with a fleet, your Attack is the relative attribute, while the enemy's defense is relative on his part, but I'm not sure. Also, are there any ships efficient in coastal combat and are there ones that are efficient in deep sea ones?
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    Default Re: Morale, Valour, Naval combat

    Quote Originally Posted by VersusAllOdds View Post
    I almost always play MTW campaign on Normal/Hard, and fight only auto-caluclated battles, cuz my battle mode doesn't work.
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    In addition to what drone said refer to the numerology thread at the .com

    http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic...War-Numerology
    Last edited by caravel; 04-05-2011 at 19:45. Reason: didn't see drone's post until after I'd posted - removed duplicate info...

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