games junk and l call it like it is and ca dont like it..lmao

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

You think CA is going to care about what you say at .Com?

[Dionysus9]

Of course CA cares what he says-- thats why they sanctioned him. There was a time when the .org was handing out bans for similar conduct and thats when the .net got formed.

Anyway-- the thing you have to remember is this-- If you come onto my property and insult me to my face in front of my guests, I'm going to ask you to behave or leave my property. That is all that CA is doing here. They dont appreciate being insulted on their turf. Fair enough. You can keep insulting them and take your ban Critter, but I suggest you tone it down a notch and instead "flirt with the line." Its like being in verbal skirmish mode-- criticize them but dont cross the line to insult. Its more entertaining to watch than an outright ban.

[Swoosh So]

Tomisawa get some tournments up and running and save us from this baloney!! Im sure many of us would be open to having an online meeting to discuss the fairest possible rules available..

[Kocmoc]

We need a new definition of what the community is and how useful Tournaments are like the CWC.

I want to add here, the heavy asked chat/foyer, which is now there (actual useless liek it is), but not used at all.

There are maybe "many" player, but this isnt a community at all, most people dont know each other, tons of so called "clans" where half of them hit alt-f4 or use artillery.
I think that the Org and also some of the "oldtimer" lost contact to what they call community.

Here at the org isnt the online community, its mostly some old player from the old days, thats it. The structure of the org is too hard to enter for those many new player, who like it a lot easier.

A tourney like CWC will mostly just get old guys involved, it will provide some fun for a small group of the S2-playerbase, but i doubt that it wont hit a big part of the community. We are split all over the internet, some are here, some are on the net, some are on the com and everywhere people pop up and behave as they would exactly know whats going on.

The game is crap! The basics, the potential is good, no doubt. But with the heavy problems we have online, the game lost so much, that you hardly can call it any good.
Its seen everywhere, people complain full time...

Now we have here a handful of player, who like to play hosted battles and play vs. each other all the time. Good for you, enjoy it, but dont think that you reflect the community of S2! You dont!

The majority, which kinda build is the community, wants MM battles and ranked fights, ladder or clancampaigns.
I myself want to play quick battles, fight with my vets and the army i like to play with online and gain ranking in the ladder.
You and other want different things, fine. People are different, thats human nature.

I just look online, see a trend and that isnt the old system with CWC or CWB or whatever!

CA is in charge here, they have the potential and the masses! I would like to see XFire battles with the best ranked player online.

[CanCritter]

wondering if l can use those 2 points CA gave me to use on my skills tree for Verbal Banter
theres no stopping quiters but with a ban feature l shure could wittle them down to the point lm not getting 4-5 quiters in row

[Chimpyang]

We need a new definition of what the community is and how useful Tournaments are like the CWC....

There are some very interesting points that you raise here Kocmoc.

I would counter with:
1. We paid for the game as well as the majority not here (that speak rightly speak of as more the community of this game), one of the features advertised was the ability to play classic battles. This feature of the game has proven to be bugged to date, and it would be nice to get a fix for it. Regardless of how we like to use it.

2. Chat isn't dead, everyone's very shy to actually type something. I started a conversation the other day by asking if people could see my hosted battle, and once the icebreaker was made, people got involved etc...now I've yet to see circa 100 people in chat at any one time (which IIRC was the average number when I used to log onto MTW and MTW VI), but if we can foster some conversation, it might just ease things along a bit.

3. Regarding rankings, I would much rather see CA adopt a transparent ELO based scoring system for MM matches. The ethos of 'reward EVERYBODY' and let them ALL achieve is flawed in my view. As is the alt-f4 ragequit ladder manipulation. IMO, to play competitively should also incur the risk of losing appropriate ranking points in the face of a loss. My other fave interim RTS - RUSE, adopted something like this, but only externally in steam, and I far more care about my ELO score than my ingame 'level' as it is a truer reflection of my skill within the community.

I have no problem with MM, it's innovative and offers a new experience to MP, however, given the fevered pageanting to the old crowd with classic battles. It would be nice to see a fix to this parallel MP feature before long.

[Dionysus9]

Haha, good one Critter. And good points Chimpyang and Kocmoc. The bottom line is that CA has all the power to bring this community together by fixing the game. If they can fix it with a good patch or two, then the community will thrive. If they dont fix it, we'll continue to see little pockets of people who are able to squeeze some fun out of it with a lot of effort, patience, and downtime. We could have the best community site of any game, and if the game stinks, the community site will be dead. This is completely in CA's hands now. I wish them the best of luck in resolving the many issues with the MP side.

[Hunter KIng George]

The chat/foyer and the inability to see all games is killing the community. Having most of the guys here as friends and able to see them log on or off is just not enough.

I enjoy playing with my clan members but I also very much enjoy playing with and versus the Aggonies, RW's, Heerbanns or any veteran players or clans that I once shared the battlefield many moons ago. The present system makes it very difficult.

It is frustrating not to see ALL games hosted. I have yet to play with King or Kocmoc, or even the legendary Warman. :P

If they fix that then we as a community have a great chance to come together... we may also be able to control the cowards from quitting at least to a minimum.

Just as in the old days... if you are not willing to play by the rules, you will be branded as a quitter and not allowed to play any reindeer games with the rest.

[AggonyKing]

Tomisawa get some tournments up and running and save us from this baloney!! Im sure many of us would be open to having an online meeting to discuss the fairest possible rules available..

game is still too buggy. might be worth waiting for the patch at this point before the serious tourneys roll out :D