Units who've won you over?

**Monk** · 04-09-2011, 17:46

For me it's gotta be Naginata Samurai.

I almost never used them in the original shogun, preferring the No-Dachi/Yari samurai charge to anything else. But I find myself really enjoying the Nagitana in shogun 2, i find it a very versatile weapon in the current game balance. While not as effective against spears as swords, and not as good against cavalry as a yari, i still find it a great all purpose weapon. If my line looks like it'll breach then its time to send in the Nagitana to reinforce and get the job done.

What are some of the units you find are making it into your armies, perhaps more than you thought?

**Zarky** · 04-09-2011, 18:06

For me it has to be Naginata Warrior Monks. Partly because of the naginata versatility, but more because of War Cry, which I exploit to the fullest by pinning down enemy samurai with other units while my warrior monks rout enemy ashigaru without breaking a sweat and then charging the enemy samurai in the rear, the rear

One other reason is that lately I've been developing my commanders more and more towards Infantry Leader (Stand & Fight + more melee attack) So that I can focus encampments and blacksmiths towards armor upgrades that the warrior monks need. With these bonuses they will defeat most enemy units with ease as long as I have a good strategy. Only downside is their cost and the research you need to put in to even get them in the first place.

**Kagemusha** · 04-09-2011, 18:16

Yari and Yumi Ashigaru. I love how they are presented.

**A Nerd** · 04-09-2011, 18:27

I have formed a fondness for Katana Samurai. Excellent melee, readily available, (they look nice), and I always liked the sword infantry of other TW titles. Also, I installed a mod that unlocks all the units that are available in custom battle and mp, you can produce them in your castles for use in the campaign. There is one unit, you can only have one of them in all your armies, ie. just one unit, no more, that are women with naginata. I can't remember what they are called, but they are tough. I have come across a few in AI armies and they destroyed a unit of Naginata I had fighting them. Another time, I had a unit of these ladies surrounded an all sides and they fought to the very last man, er, woman! I have one in an army, but have yet to use them on the field. That army was tied up in a siege of Kyoto. Now that I have the city, they are on thier way to the front! :D

**Monk** · 04-09-2011, 18:36

Originally Posted by JuJuBee

I have formed a fondness for Katana Samurai. Excellent melee, readily available, (they look nice), and I always liked the sword infantry of other TW titles. Also, I installed a mod that unlocks all the units that are available in custom battle and mp, you can produce them in your castles for use in the campaign. There is one unit, you can only have one of them in all your armies, ie. just one unit, no more, that are women with naginata. I can't remember what they are called, but they are tough. I have come across a few in AI armies and they destroyed a unit of Naginata I had fighting them. Another time, I had a unit of these ladies surrounded an all sides and they fought to the very last man, er, woman! I have one in an army, but have yet to use them on the field. That army was tied up in a siege of Kyoto. Now that I have the city, they are on thier way to the front! :D

Onna Bushi is the name you're looking for. In fact, they are one of the avatars from Shogun 2 soon to be added to the .org for selection *tease tease*

**A Nerd** · 04-09-2011, 18:41

Those are the lovely ladies! :)

**Zim** · 04-10-2011, 05:36

I ended up with a unit of those in a defensive siege battle. They really impressed me.

Originally Posted by Monk

Onna Bushi is the name you're looking for. In fact, they are one of the avatars from Shogun 2 soon to be added to the .org for selection *tease tease*

**econ21** · 04-09-2011, 20:13

Originally Posted by Kagemusha

Yari and Yumi Ashigaru.

Seconded.

Wait - there are other units than these?

Hmm, maybe I should tell my Oda Daimyo...

**Dead Guy** · 04-10-2011, 00:56

Onna Bushi are spawned as retainers for castle/citadel siege defense, no?

I've never really seen them put to the test except at walls etc so I can't tell just how good they are.

As for OP, definitely naginatas. They can do anything. I'm constantly surprised at how well they do in any situation I throw them into.

**HopAlongBunny** · 04-10-2011, 05:36

Bow samurai.

They shoot arrows and wield a mean sword; always use a cpl to back up my main line.
Game winners? No, but they are flexible and tough, allowing my heavy hitters to do something besides "line maintenance".

The fearless ladies are great! Had some on a castle defence and they just killed anything thrown their way. The only time I faced them on the field I turned every bow available on them :p