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    Speaker of Truth Senior Member Moros's Avatar
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    Default Re: reemerging factions

    Saba for one actually did reemerge, though about a century after our game's period.

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    Default Re: reemerging factions

    As Ptolemaios said with Raphia I recalled the phalanx was formed mostly by Egyptians, also prior to that many Galatians revolted if I'm not much mistaken...
    moonburn your point about assimilation is true though, but by reading the letters of those Kleruchoi they all sounded to me like people "forced" by possibilities and needs to emigrate, I can't say how much "Makedonians" they felt...

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    well arjos gallatians where always revolting i mean getting payed to stay put is always better then getting payed to go to war and risk death ít´s a bit like unions nowadays they threat to go on strike to have higher wages either they deserve them or no and it´s better to get a raise then to be fired ... (wierd comparison i know )

    as for the kleurichoi the ptolomaioi had alot of problems finding enough makedonians to fill in the hetaroi roles and most makedonians died anyway during the diadochi wars and makedonia was pretty much emptyed of proper peztharoi after alexanders conquest so the sarissa wielders where actually thrakians and hellenes and a few other more hellenized people (lydians ionians and such) so yes they resented the makedonian racism towards the other hellenes

    and as i stated had the seulekids conquered aygyptos they probably would have continued the kleurocheias and those soldiers would serve the seulekids... once the ptolomaioi allowed the kleuros to be hereditary egypt became a kind of small feudal state 1000 years prior to the feudal age and the seulekids would prefer to not screw around since they needed hellenic "loyal" soldiers in the east and mantaining the former administration would have worked for them

    also the seulekids also had a history of being more "tolerant" remember they enherit the old achmanaid dinasty laws wich preaches acceptance and tollerance so aslong as those troops where loyal the seulekids didn´t cared if they where karalians greeks makedonians thracians or whatever since the seulekids themselfs where halfbreeds themselfs beteween syrian women and makedonia manly strenght while the hellenes living in egypt and surrounded by angry natives needed the seulekids so they could continue to be the aristocracy instead of having their throats cut off in their sleep

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    Default Re: reemerging factions

    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Saba for one actually did reemerge, though about a century after our game's period.
    But this shows factions did re-emerge in classical history.
    "When the candles are out all women are fair."
    -Plutarch, Coniugia Praecepta 46

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