The Problem With The War On Drugs

[Louis VI the Fat]

It's good to know that all that time I spent in college getting high with my friends, listening to music and laughing our collective a**** off at Monty Python, Firesign Theatre, and George Carlin, that what we were really doing was killing Mexicans and Columbians

Maybe I owe an apology to the Thai people I killed by lighting up all those Thai-sticks, or the Nepalese for all the Nepalese finger hashish I smoked

Welll....unless you smoked / used some homegrown American drugs, you did just that. Then you really did work to destabilise Colombian, Mexican, Central Asian societies, did fund terrorism.

Such is the depravity of the War on Drugs. It creates its own enemies, makes itself complicit in, even the cause of, the crimes and destruction it seeks to combat.


Light a joint and you do kill a Mexican.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Welll....unless you smoked / used some homegrown American drugs, you did just that. Then you really did work to destabilise Colombian, Mexican, Central Asian societies, did fund terrorism.

Such is the depravity of the War on Drugs. It creates its own enemies, makes itself complicit in, even the cause of, the crimes and destruction it seeks to combat.


Light a joint and you do kill a Mexican.

No.

The ones who brought it to that are the people and politicians who deemed themselves the masters of others and demanded drugs be made illegal. Those same people who insisted violence be used on harmless people, that agents of the government hunt consensual drug users down and use deadly force if necessary to make them stop, those are the ones responsible.

Those people are who started this war, and the blood is on their hands.

CR

[ReluctantSamurai]

It still leaves the matter of responsibility and culpability.

And who is going to determine either/both of those factors? In these modern times, one can hardly use any commercial product, whether food, drug, fuel, or any other commodity, without being "responsible" for harm or death to come to some living thing, human or otherwise.

[Beirut]

And who is going to determine either/both of those factors? In these modern times, one can hardly use any commercial product, whether food, drug, fuel, or any other commodity, without being "responsible" for harm or death to come to some living thing, human or otherwise.

Exactly!

Eating a chocolate bar no more makes one a murderer of Africans any more than smoking a joint makes one a murderer of Mexicans.

If an African guy or a Mexican guy is going to cut off the head of his fellow man for some cocoa or pot profits, odds are he would cut someone's head off for pretty much any reason at all. The point is that the guy killing his fellow man is a scumbag, and it is 100% his own fault that his picked up the knife/gun/club and killed the guy next to him with it.

[HopAlongBunny]

The "War on Drugs" is a farce.

The politicos unleash the force of the state on users; basically a never-ending supply of victims. The users of course are rarely drawn from the "professional" or wealthy sectors (they might get "rehab" if they are ever even tagged) It's a mask, allowing the state to trample rights and funnel money to their friends imho.

It pours money into an exercise in futility, and away from anything that might possibly remedy the situation.

[rory_20_uk]

More than that - the war on druge helps inflate the profit in the whole supply chain. If cannabis was grown in massive fields there would be as much reason to grow cannabis oneself as there is to grow tomatoes - people do it, but there's little if any money to be made in it.

If labs were making tonnes of the synthetics the margins would be a barrier of entry for many others. It would cost too much to set up the supply chain.

If one really wanted to "win" the war on drugs, first step would be to legalise them, and on the same day to flood the market with the stuff from lisenced channels. Get one's coke from Wall Mart or some white substance from an odd chap in the corner of a bad neighbourhood? Tough call...

[Ronin]

The "War on Drugs" is a farce.

The politicos unleash the force of the state on users; basically a never-ending supply of victims. The users of course are rarely drawn from the "professional" or wealthy sectors (they might get "rehab" if they are ever even tagged) It's a mask, allowing the state to trample rights and funnel money to their friends imho.

It pours money into an exercise in futility, and away from anything that might possibly remedy the situation.

to quote the tv show 'The Wire'

"This isn't a war. Wars end"

[ICantSpellDawg]

Modern drug laws are completely insane. Current laws trample all over everyones rights and make a mockery of what this country represents. Lately, Ive been hearing instances of police physically assaulting people outside of their homes for smoking weed. As dumb and pointless as weed is, any police officer who thinks he has the right to assault someone for smoking leaves should be thrown into the stockade. The older I get, the more absurd I see our legal system as being. We need to radically overhaul this pig. Guns in the hands of everyone and only laws that protect the lives and direct property of others should have any place in modern society. Set fire to red tape everywhere.