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    Default Re: Shogun 2 Realism + | Release & Discussion Thread

    Suggestion: Can only recruit 2x Samurai Katana, Naginata Samurai, etc. Please more recruitment of Samurai Katana and etc.

    Yari Samurai I can recruit 6-8x!

    think it is not realistic, overall for the whole clan at 20 and more regions to a few samurai.

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    Default Re: Shogun 2 Realism + | Release & Discussion Thread

    There is a reason behind that design (i wrote somewhere a slight hint already).

    So here we go with a "short" description:

    Samurai-only units were seldom if not even complete unrealistic for some factions. Samurai normally led Ashigaru and/or were mixed into the "units" ("regiments" or "division", if you want so).
    The given limit in this mod is a slight reflection of those historical backgrounds, also ie. the Yari and Bow equipped Samurai were the rule, therfore the higher numbers compared to the other.
    And the other types are real special Samurai, so the cap is more restricted for them.
    Besides this, the more your empire grows, the more you have to "replace" Samurai positions with Ashigaru, this intentional in this mod and reflects history to some degree.

    When i have time and the mod is done, i'll create a pdf S2R+ guide, where also this design-description will be a content, incl. single descriptions of the units, what they really simulate in this design.

    More examples: The bow Ashi and sword Ashi are not simple common Ashis in this mod, also every Ashi unit contains lesser Samurai (as imagination, what makes their partly good combat values reasonable), as it was in reality. And those lesser Samurai often were poor nearly like Ashis (peasants - some lesser Samurai hardly had more possession as some Ashi), and had "probably" (perhaps) the equipment of the best looking Ashi textures (if you use the Unit Variety mod, you can see the texture distinctions from which speak). The Samurai tagged units are already "elite" within the whole imagined Samurai deployment, the ones who can afford such a good equipment, and the special ones (ie. the renamed "heroes" are the very elite ones by skill and wealth).

    If you know some Sengoku history, the design helps perfectly to your immersion into the gameplay, for me at least valid :)
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    Default Re: Shogun 2 Realism + | Release & Discussion Thread

    Ok, thanks for the info!

    Then we would have, to present the launch of the era to the year 1477
    Sengoku Period (1477 - 1600)
    is a change in start time (1477) planned?
    think it would be good ;-)

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    Default Re: Shogun 2 Realism + | Release & Discussion Thread

    Nope. The according mod design tries to reflect some of the roughly 50 years of the Sengoko period from mid 16th century towards the starting 17th century.

    While the fun factor is kept in the mod, thus Samurai recruits are content ;) ... even with my Samurai caps, you can still deploy a least one full Samurai stack, if you like (and such a stack, of course, would be invincible, as hint for the "cheating" players).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Nope. The according mod design tries to reflect some of the roughly 50 years of the Sengoko period from mid 16th century towards the starting 17th century.

    While the fun factor is kept in the mod, thus Samurai recruits are content ;) ... even with my Samurai caps, you can still deploy a least one full Samurai stack, if you like (and such a stack, of course, would be invincible, as hint for the "cheating" players).

    Da Vinci,since you're very much a expert of Sengoko history,You will have seen my story posted on the total war website.Its called My story.I need as much historical accuracy or info as you can give me to publish it as a book thanks.

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    Default Re: Shogun 2 Realism + | Release & Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Takeda Shogunate View Post
    Da Vinci,since you're very much a expert of Sengoko history,You will have seen my story posted on the total war website.Its called My story.I need as much historical accuracy or info as you can give me to publish it as a book thanks.
    Oh, i'm in no way an expert of the Sengoku history. Tan zhi han is, for example, a semi expert, but i have only general knowledge about it.

    Sorry, my time on totalwar.org allows only to support this hosted forum with my mod here.

    Google for it, and then there are of course also a few books available, about the Sengoku period, which can provide accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Oh, i'm in no way an expert of the Sengoku history. Tan zhi han is, for example, a semi expert, but i have only general knowledge about it.

    Sorry, my time on totalwar.org allows only to support this hosted forum with my mod here.

    Google for it, and then there are of course also a few books available, about the Sengoku period, which can provide accuracy.
    I'll google it,are there any good websites you may reccomand?

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