International Court...slow, but on the right track?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Um maybe just kill the Dictators in the first place in their palaces?

[Jaguara]

Um maybe just kill the Dictators in the first place in their palaces?

I thought this was a discussion about the international courts. I do not see the relevance of your comment.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I thought this was a discussion about the international courts. I do not see the relevance of your comment.

You mean a bunch of guys who play dress up because they forget this is 2011 and not 1800? Sorry, I must have be mistaken!

They are jokes. They are like the UN. So they tell you that you a bad person and you should face charges. Really? How you going to do that if no one is going to come arrest you and your people won't depose of you? You tell me how it happens in the real world and I show you how many successful cases there has been.

[Jaguara]

You mean a bunch of guys who play dress up because they forget this is 2011 and not 1800? Sorry, I must have be mistaken!

That could describe any court.

They are jokes. They are like the UN. So they tell you that you a bad person and you should face charges. Really? How you going to do that if no one is going to come arrest you and your people won't depose of you? You tell me how it happens in the real world and I show you how many successful cases there has been.

Well, my point was that it takes time, and that perhaps we are on the right track.

Yes, without the co-operation of the state where the person is residing, there is not a lot the court can do. However, these people then end up living as fugitives within the countries where they take shelter. They may or may not suffer for it. They are also vulnerable if there is a change of government to one that is willing to turn them over.

As time goes on, and credibility of the court increases, and as more countries sign to accept it's authority, there is potential for this to become a viable tool to decreasing crimes against humanity and war crimes.

[HoreTore]

No wiggies in the ICC, that's british courts. And the ex-colonials minus one.

As for its relevance... Well, the victims of those sentenced by the court seem rather happy, they seem to be pleased that justice has been done.

[a completely inoffensive name]

You mean a bunch of guys who play dress up because they forget this is 2011 and not 1800? Sorry, I must have be mistaken!

They are jokes. They are like the UN. So they tell you that you a bad person and you should face charges. Really? How you going to do that if no one is going to come arrest you and your people won't depose of you? You tell me how it happens in the real world and I show you how many successful cases there has been.

Seems as if you view everyone but Americans as a joke.

When no one is laughing at a joke but you, there comes a point where you have to examine whether it is extremely subtle comedy or you are just a fool.

[Louis VI the Fat]

This is not the ICC. This is the ICTY. Americans are part of it. Apparantly people have been succesfully brought before court, in a succesful case, because they have just been convicted, see 'topic of debate'.

[CountArach]

Um maybe just kill the Dictators in the first place in their palaces?

Every human has a right to due process, according to the Universtal Dclaration of Human Rights:

Article 10.

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

If we throw out this article in those cases which would appear most convenient for whatever cause we are fighting for, then surely we are just doing the same thing these tyrrants are? By dispensing with the law whenever we wish we can no longer have any claim to the moral high ground.