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    I don't think it will happen. The Supreme Court will knock it down.

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    What about polyandry?
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    Well if a man and a man can get married, why can't a man and a man and a man get married?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    I don't think it will happen. The Supreme Court will knock it down.

    I hope.
    I guess follow the story to see what the Supreme court says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Well if a man and a man can get married, why can't a man and a man and a man get married?
    In the name of equality we're going to end up with men marrying their mothers, fathers marrying their daughters, guys marrying dogs, it will never end. And there will be people who say anyone who is against any of these things they are just hate-mongers.

    Let there be mush.

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    We'll be a nation of Captain Jack Harkness's and Captain John Hart's. Interesting would be a very mild way of putting it. Still we're getting a bit ahead of our selfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    In the name of equality we're going to end up with men marrying their mothers, fathers marrying their daughters, guys marrying dogs, it will never end. And there will be people who say anyone who is against any of these things they are just hate-mongers.

    Let there be mush.

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    Are you really concerned about men marrying their dogs, or is that just exaggeration for effect?

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    The state should not interfere with peoples love life.

    Whether I choose to spend my life with one, two, three or more people, or alone, is nobodys business but my own. Love should be an individuals choice, and never regulated by law. End of story.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    If people are willing to marry more than one person, who are we to prevent that? So long as people are not forced into marriage (Which is already a crime by itself), then I don't see a point in forbidding polygamy except to maintain some sort of Judeo-Christian standard of monogamy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The state should not interfere with peoples love life.

    Whether I choose to spend my life with one, two, three or more people, or alone, is nobodys business but my own. Love should be an individuals choice, and never regulated by law. End of story.
    But does that mean you should get tax and welfare benefits for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    But does that mean you should get tax and welfare benefits for it?
    If other couples recieve them, yes of course. Why on earth shouldn't they?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    But does that mean you should get tax and welfare benefits for it?
    Good point. Why not remove the tax & welfare benefits for married couples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The state should not interfere with peoples love life.

    Whether I choose to spend my life with one, two, three or more people, or alone, is nobodys business but my own. Love should be an individuals choice, and never regulated by law. End of story.
    mariage is not about love its about property. and as locke says property is a natural right which should be garantueed by the government. thus marriage is a case of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    mariage is not about love its about property. and as locke says property is a natural right which should be garantueed by the government. thus marriage is a case of law.
    Get with the times.

    People arrange their lives in multiple ways now, marriage is no longer dominant. People live together and raise children without being married. The laws should reflects this, thus marriage should be removed from the laws and replaced by new ones determining how people can share property.

    Oh, and I'm a socialist, I have no respect for Locke
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    Are you really concerned about men marrying their dogs, or is that just exaggeration for effect?
    Well, stranger things have happened notably in Japan. There people marry things like blow up dolls and cushions.
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    What kinda fool would want more than one wife?
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    I wonder this will mean for spousal benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    What kinda fool would want more than one wife?
    Mormons dudes who's womenz have been molded into doormat baby factories by years of indoctrination. Or Muslims who believe in the old ways
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Are you really concerned about men marrying their dogs, or is that just exaggeration for effect?
    I can't imagine that answering that would provide as much entertainment for your imaqination as not answering it.

    So, because I care about your quality of life, I'm not going to answer it.
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    State-recognised marriage exists to promote the nuclear family because it was the building block of society.

    Polygamous relationships on the other hand are not, but are in fact destructive to it.

    If you want to have such a relationship then fine, but don't expect the government to support it.
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    To think that someday soon I can go out in public with all my wives at once...of course, first I will have to tell them about each other...

    Well, the Mormons seem to be pushing for acceptance of this across North America. You have that new TLC show, that focuses on a family, mostly portrayed in a positive light. Of course, in typical TLC fashion, they show a well off family...not the beat up trailer in the woods with 25 kids. (Same deal with the "little people" shows...always an affluent family, never someone struggling to deal with grim realities of life)

    Myself, I am not very knowledgeable on the subject, other than random curiousity. I have tended toward the interpretation that it often results in exploitation of women...but I could be merely influenced by "feminist propoganda", or bias based on local cults which engaged in polygamy. I certainly have no first-hand experience.

    I had heard that often it is very young girls who are introduced into these marriages, when they are easier to "train" and then control. However, the TLC show portrays this as mostly a choice made by more mature women. I have no statistics or information to show one or the other.

    I am also aware that many other cultures allowed this sort of arrangement - in Ancient China, in certain sects of Islam, and others. Are some forms more acceptable than others?

    So, there are a lot of questions to answer in this legal case.

    There are many brands of polygamy - from the man who leads 2-3 different lives, with each ignorant of the others on one side to the religious-based relationships on the other.
    Will this allow all forms of polygamy?
    Will only Mormon polygamy be allowed or all religious/cultural polygamy be allowed?
    Will a woman be able to marry multiple men?

    So, any thoughts on any of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguara View Post
    Myself, I am not very knowledgeable on the subject, other than random curiousity. I have tended toward the interpretation that it often results in exploitation of women...but I could be merely influenced by "feminist propoganda", or bias based on local cults which engaged in polygamy. I certainly have no first-hand experience.

    I had heard that often it is very young girls who are introduced into these marriages, when they are easier to "train" and then control. However, the TLC show portrays this as mostly a choice made by more mature women. I have no statistics or information to show one or the other.
    My understanding, growing up in southern Utah near an FLDS community, is that there is indeed a lot of abuse, arranged marriage of young girls to old men, and indoctrination. The states of Utah and Arizona both had many headaches trying to figure out a legal approach to shutting them down. The biggest problems are the indoctrination and isolation. I don't know if legalizing it would allow greater access and opportunity for intervention in then-hopefully-demonstrable cases of abuse. The level of patriarchy and anti-feminism in the mainstream Mormon church is bad enough, but in the FLDS offshoots it's disgusting.

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    I'm for it in principle, but I agree that it is something that has many difficult facets.

    I don't think that polygamy has the monopoly on brainwashing women into house mice / baby factories.

    If polygamy were more widely accepted, there might be less need for certain communities to isolate and indoctrinate. After all, we are indoctrinated to the concept of monogamy, we just consider that "normal" and "right".

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