Osama Bin Laden is Dead

[Hax]

Holy , there were about 20 guys in that picture! IMPRISON MUSLIMS NAO!

[Fragony]

Holy , there were about 20 guys in that picture! IMPRISON MUSLIMS NAO!

Hundreds. [REMOVED COMMENT - COUNTARACH]. Islamphiles will never accept that islam cannot be changed, multiculturism would be a flawed concept, unbearable for the leftist church.

[Hax]

Fragony, the amount of neologisms you create is proportional to the amount of paranoid nonsense you post here.

Islamphiles will never accept that islam cannot be changed

Wow, and yet it has several times.

Hundreds.

Okay, let's say there are maybe, maybe 400 people protesting like this. In, for example, the Netherlands. Musllims constitute about 5% of the population (according the CBS/Statistics Netherlands). That's around 340.000 Muslims. 400 divided by 340.000 is about 0.0012 percent of the Dutch Muslim population.

Yep, there's a problem with Islam. Obviously. Statistics are just "Islamphile" propaganda!

[Louis VI the Fat]

Fragony, paranoid nonsense you post here.



In, for example, the Netherlands. Musllims constitute about 5% of the population (according the CBS/Statistics Netherlands). That's around 340.000 Muslims.

I'm afraid that is the 'Fragony Blindspot'.

The Netherlands has 16.5 million inhabitants. So five percent is not at all 340.000, but nearly triple that.


What one should do in Europe, is to take the most repeated estimate of amount of Muslims, and then triple it. Percentages are systematically and reflexively pushed downwards, in a mistaken sense of duty, to show that 'things are nowhere near as bad as the populists make them out to be'.
Me, I estimate the amount of 'Muslims' in the Netherlands at fifteen percent of the population, or just over two million. About half of these are religious, so one million Muslim believers.

Yep, there's a problem with Islam. Obviously. Statistics are just "Islamphile" propaganda!

Yes, there is a problem with Islam. And yes, statistics in Europe are subject to misplaced multicultural sensitivities.

[PanzerJaeger]

Okay, let's say there are maybe, maybe 400 people protesting like this. In, for example, the Netherlands. Musllims constitute about 5% of the population (according the CBS/Statistics Netherlands). That's around 340.000 Muslims. 400 divided by 340.000 is about 0.0012 percent of the Dutch Muslim population.

Yep, there's a problem with Islam. Obviously. Statistics are just "Islamphile" propaganda!

The number of people who can actually find the time and be bothered to show up on the streets in favor of a particular opinion or position is a tiny fraction of the number who actually support it.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Fragony, the amount of neologisms you create is proportional to the amount of paranoid nonsense you post here.



Wow, and yet it has several times.



Okay, let's say there are maybe, maybe 400 people protesting like this. In, for example, the Netherlands. Musllims constitute about 5% of the population (according the CBS/Statistics Netherlands). That's around 340.000 Muslims. 400 divided by 340.000 is about 0.0012 percent of the Dutch Muslim population.

Yep, there's a problem with Islam. Obviously. Statistics are just "Islamphile" propaganda!

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.....

[Lemur]

Since some news outlets and commentators are still pushing the narrative that we have torture, beautiful torture to thank for catching OBL, this interview with a military interrogator caught my eye:

A top United States interrogator in Afghanistan says that torture played no role in locating Osama bin Laden, and that claims to the contrary by former Bush administration officials recently is “propaganda [that] degrades our intelligence operations more than any other factor I can think of.”

Such talk also creates blowback — unintended consequences — that can be deadly, he added in an interview. “Simply the idea of our interrogators using torture or coercion recruits jihadists, facilitators, suppliers, supporters, and even suicide bombers, against us and our allies,” he said.

The man, who can’t be named for security reasons, has nearly two decades of experience as a military interrogator and Human Intelligence (HUMINT) specialist. He interrogated suspected high-value targets at Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, and Afghanistan, where he is currently stationed.

“Listen,” he said, “waterboarding and/or other coercive techniques did nothing to contribute to our attempts to track down UBL (Usama bin Laden). What did succeed was weeks, months and years of diligent, laborious, and dedicated work – all within the bounds of legal and ethical boundaries….No torture, no waterboarding, no coercion – nothing inhumane is considered a useful tool in our work.”

On the subject of blowback, he continued: "I cannot even count the amount of times that I personally have come face to face with detainees, who told me they were primarily motivated to do what they did, because of hearing that we committed torture. Even the rumor of torture is enough to convince an army of uneducated and illiterate, yet religiously motivated young boys to strap bombs to their chests and blow themselves up while killing whoever happens to be around – police, soldiers, civilians, women, or children. Torture committed by Americans in the past continues to kill Americans today." [...]

“If right-wing news outlets and partisan pundits or politicians are allowed to continue to spread their completely bogus claims that torture is effective,” he said, “then we will have corrupted the beliefs of yet another generation of new intelligence recruits….It takes months and years of ‘intervention’ to get the next generation back on the track of quality work, specialization, and intelligence dominance – not quick and easy fixes. This is not an hour-long TV show.”

[Subotan]

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.....

Only because the nature of the goal the Provos were working for (I.e. a united Ireland) was not best served by an intensive campaign of terror against the civilian population in Great Britain - the IRA always saw themselves as an army fighting a war against the British Army and the Loyalist Paras. That they essentially became a a mafia with rocket launchers that made life hell for the Irishmen they claimed to be fighting for is neither here nor there, as the nature of the conflicts are completely different.

There are lots of examples of Christians murdering populations en masse in the modern world - the Srebenica Massacre, which happened in your lifetime, is one, where over 8,000 men and boys were executed by Christians over the course of about two weeks.

[Fragony]

Oh yeah that. It really stands out doesn't it

[Hax]

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.....

Ah, and how many civilians killed due to retaliatory action in Iraq (which, incidentally, had nothing to do with Osama bin Laden)?

[Idaho]

Hundreds. Nah just back to sandland for these folks attending, they can herd their wives and love their goats where they came from they don't belong here. Islamphiles will never accept that islam cannot be changed, multiculturism would be a flawed concept, unbearable for the leftist church.

Hundreds my eye. There are about 30 in that group that turn up to these things. 25 if it's raining. The only people who take them seriously are people like you and the media who know they can get some racy copy out of them.

[Fragony]

Hundreds my eye. There are about 30 in that group that turn up to these things. 25 if it's raining. The only people who take them seriously are people like you and the media who know they can get some racy copy out of them.

100 is what is reported. And if nobody takes it seriously than why are people so cautious?

[Crazed Rabbit]

A quote from an article featuring that picture:

However, another man who prayed at the Mosque said the group [with the signs] were a dangerous minority. He said: "They are crazy. They all benefit from UK education and UK benefits.

"They get everything for free and yet they still complain. They are not Islam, they are for Osama.

"You see the people walking past and ignoring them. Most Muslims have better things to do then this."

They'll always be idiots (see birthers in the US). Though I don't see the reason in giving them welfare.

CR