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B-Wing 02:20 05-17-2011
Which players are tied for first?

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Csargo 03:14 05-17-2011
GE, Scienter, and Chaotix I believe

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GeneralHankerchief 04:28 05-17-2011
Originally Posted by Csargo:
GE, Scienter, and Chaotix I believe
Correct, each of them have three votes.

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B-Wing 04:33 05-17-2011
OK, unvote; vote: God Emporer because he's been the quietest of the three lately.

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Diamondeye 10:45 05-17-2011
You'll want GE and Scienter up there... If one of them is innocent, B-Ray's a good suspect.

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Visor 10:47 05-17-2011
Vote: God Emperor

Didn't make a joke about you in this thread! ;)

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God Emperor 11:26 05-17-2011
Just kill Chaotix whenever you feel like you have the time

Edit: If it is of any interest, you might want to notice that no one is trying to save me. Not even me ^^ (aside from this post that is :p)

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Askthepizzaguy 11:54 05-17-2011
Originally Posted by God Emperor:
Just kill Chaotix whenever you feel like you have the time

Edit: If it is of any interest, you might want to notice that no one is trying to save me. Not even me ^^ (aside from this post that is :p)
That's not a good argument for you to live. Pretending not to care about if you live or die is common mafia strategy.

Unvote, vote: God Emperor

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God Emperor 11:58 05-17-2011
and a very honest strategy when I am town ^^ I don't mind being lynched, just focus and Chaotix and.. what is his name *checking* , thelastdays, when I am dead

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johnhughthom 15:12 05-17-2011
Originally Posted by Visorslash:
Vote: God Emperor

Didn't make a joke about you in this thread! ;)
You'll need to unvote first Visorslash, this is just an extension, not a revote like last time.

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Visor 15:14 05-17-2011
Thanks.

Unvote; Vote: God Emperor

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GeneralHankerchief 19:51 05-17-2011
Voting closed.

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GeneralHankerchief 20:10 05-17-2011
Clinton, Iowa
Day 4

After four miserable, muddy days, it seemed that a consensus was at last starting to emerge amongst the campers, although "survivors" would probably at this point be a better descriptor of their status. Instead of having votes haphazardly flung every which way, it seemed that the survivors were finally realizing the desperation of their situation and exercising greater concentration. Camps, of the metaphorical variety, were starting to form. Voting blocs emerged. When once there were nine or even ten viable candidates, now there were only three.

Of course now, the biggest problem was breaking the deadlock between the three: Chaotix, God Emperor, and Scienter. All three candidates seemed viable. All three seemed to have cases, and at the same time the arguments for each of their guilt had some holes in it. It was a combination of these factors that had voting continue for a much longer period than usual, deeper into the night. Over time, each faction seemed to gain and lose steam. Coherent arguments were being made.

It was almost as if... people were actually working together.

In the end, while this new strategy may have been good for the campers as a whole as they faced this doom, it was most certainly not good for God Emperor, who ended up as the clear "winner" after the marathon voting session. Immediately starting to twitch, God Emperor looked around every which way, closely marking the positions of all of the logs and all of the scattered fires going around the campground. At the very least, he was not going to be taken by surprise, definitely so since the sun wasn't going to go down.

Growing more and more frazzled, God Emperor started staring around even more wildly, which took all of the other campers aback as they slowly started to edge away from him. "Well?" he cried out after some minutes, a crazed look in his eye, "What's it gonna be? Have at it, then! Finish me off! I SAID FINISH ME!!!!!!"

Nobody moved.

"So what now??!" God Emperor said. "What's the matter, can't kill anybody if you can't take them by surprise? You know what, all of you are - *gack!*"

God Emperor went down to the ground, groaning and clutching his chest. It had turned out that all of this excitement was simply too much for his heart, and he literally died of fright.


Day 4 tally:
God Emperor: 6 (TheLastDays, Csargo, B_Ray, JHT, ATPG, Visorslash)
Chaotix: 2 (God Emperor, Scienter)
Scienter: 2 (Andres, khaan)
ATPG: 1 (Chaotix)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 10
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
B_Ray
Csargo
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata
robbiecon
Reenk Roink

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack
Diamondeye
God Emperor

It is now Night 4. This phase will last for approximately 24 hours.

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Andres 20:31 05-17-2011
Those last few posts from God Emperor sounded pretty scummy.

EDIT: also, this constant bickering between ATPG and Chaotix is starting to bother me. Both mafiosi hating each other in the public thread is not an unusual scum tactic.

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Renata 21:05 05-17-2011
They did, actually.

I finally have an opinion. Well, getting there anyway.

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Diamondeye 21:51 05-17-2011
Originally Posted by Renata:
They did, actually.

I finally have an opinion. Well, getting there anyway.
Coherent with "Scienter is GE's scum partner"?

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Chaotix 22:50 05-17-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
Those last few posts from God Emperor sounded pretty scummy.

EDIT: also, this constant bickering between ATPG and Chaotix is starting to bother me. Both mafiosi hating each other in the public thread is not an unusual scum tactic.
Oh, man, I only wish I could get to be mafia with ATPG, because I know we would make it look so genuine.

Unfortunately, I've never had the pleasure.

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God Emperor 23:21 05-17-2011
Oh well.. I can still haunt the thread ^_^Although you guys seem awfully sure of yourself !

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Askthepizzaguy 03:07 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
Oh, man, I only wish I could get to be mafia with ATPG, because I know we would make it look so genuine.

Unfortunately, I've never had the pleasure.
It really would be a pleasure, sir. Maybe someday.

Man, this totally doesn't sound like WIFOM or anything like that. There's no chance either me or you will get any votes at all tomorrow. Nope.

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Askthepizzaguy 10:54 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
Those last few posts from God Emperor sounded pretty scummy.
Irrelevant, now that he's dead. Kicking a corpse when he's down? What for, oh fellow blueberry?

Originally Posted by :
EDIT: also, this constant bickering between ATPG and Chaotix is starting to bother me. Both mafiosi hating each other in the public thread is not an unusual scum tactic.
I predict that you and Chaotix are scum, actually.

The point of the line you just dropped like a big fake dooky, is not only that you'll be voting for me shortly, but also distancing yourself from Chaotix, so when I inevitably think you're scum, I also don't think Chaotix is scum.

And so, you and Chaotix are now my top suspects. Thanks for assisting me.


Originally Posted by Andres:
Vote : Chaotix

He talks too much
DE: Yaseikhaan, DE, Csargo, Reenk, TLD

Chaotix: ATPG, JHT, Visor, Andres.


Distancing tactic. DE is still in the lead.

DE (re)votes for Chaotix, Andres switches to DE, which is nonsensical from any perspective.

Originally Posted by Andres:
Your user title is a lie. Liars must die.

Unvote; Vote: Diamondeye
He never intended to vote for Chaotix. He wants to distance himself from Chaotix.

He's done it at least twice this game, to act like he wants Chaotix to die, but no.

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Andres 11:20 05-18-2011
Since when are we supposed to post only relevant posts in a mafia game?

And how is having an opinion about another player, dead or alive, irrelevant? Say X was lynched round 1. In round 6, in retrospect and after re-reading, X sounded really, really scummy and there's a relation with Y, who is still alive in the final round. The analysis of X is important then.

So, saying that expressing an opinion about a dead player is irrelevant is nonsense.

The Chaotix and DE thing; as you must have seen, I made a big post in capital letters to complain about silence being broken. Voting Chaotix, because "he talks too much", clearly builds further on that joke post. You will also have noted that my activity in that period of the game was very, very low. It should be obvious that I really didn't have a clue, so I switched to DE for no other reason than the fact that he happened to be online and said he lied.

You're trying to make a case out of nothing.

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Askthepizzaguy 11:27 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
Since when are we supposed to post only relevant posts in a mafia game?

And how is having an opinion about another player, dead or alive, irrelevant? Say X was lynched round 1. In round 6, in retrospect and after re-reading, X sounded really, really scummy and there's a relation with Y, who is still alive in the final round. The analysis of X is important then.

So, saying that expressing an opinion about a dead player is irrelevant is nonsense.

The Chaotix and DE thing; as you must have seen, I made a big post in capital letters to complain about silence being broken. Voting Chaotix, because "he talks too much", clearly builds further on that joke post. You will also have noted that my activity in that period of the game was very, very low. It should be obvious that I really didn't have a clue, so I switched to DE for no other reason than the fact that he happened to be online and said he lied.

You're trying to make a case out of nothing.
Originally Posted by Andres:
I don't think you're guilty Pizza. You are wrong about me, that doesn't make you guilty.

My vote on Arpeg was not a meatball vote, it was a random round 1 nonsense vote. Also, your reading skills are lacking. What I said is that I did not come back that round because of RL, but if I would have came back, I would have sticked to my vote, because Arpeg's posts read as scummy. I would have been mistaken as revealed by the GM.

So, you wish to find out if I'm guilty or not by lynching me? At least you could try to build a decent case. My reasoning for voting Romanic is much more solid. He's assumption that all people who voted 'khaan are innocent doesn't make sense. Also, why is CDF your second suspect? Or is it too much to ask to post your case against him and will finding out by lynching him satify you?

I for one am not going to sit idle by while you lead the town to its' doom with that sort of strategy. I urge all people who bother to play to vote Romanic.

In the second quote, you're guilty. You're also very serious. And, you're serious for basically the first time in that game.


Originally Posted by Andres:
It's not unusual for a mafioso to vote his scumbuddy. In fact, in a game where roles are revealed upon death, it's not a bad idea at all.
Gosh, why does that sound like the exact reasoning you just used on me "and Chaotix"?

And it turns out, in that game, you and Beskar stood apart from one another and accused each other too.

You're behaving exactly like you did in another game where you were scum. Same tactics. Same behavioral tics. Same reactions to pressure.

Suddenly Serious Andres is Suddenly Very Guilty.


Reference: Pick your power

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Andres 11:28 05-18-2011
There's also much hypocrisy in your post.

While I made just one joke vote on Chaotix, you have been at his throat for several rounds now, yet last round, you unvoted him and switched to G_E. Odd, seeing how you wanted Chaotix lynched so bad for a long while now.

If there's a connection between scum buddies, than it's between you and Chaotix.

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Askthepizzaguy 11:31 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
There's also much hypocrisy in your post.

While I made just one joke vote on Chaotix, you have been at his throat for several rounds now, yet last round, you unvoted him and switched to G_E. Odd, seeing how you wanted Chaotix lynched so bad for a long while now.

If there's a connection between scum buddies, than it's between you and Chaotix.
Nope!

Accusing me of hypocrisy? Andres, Andres, Andres.... I am a townie. I can do anything I like, and it doesn't make me guilty. Hypocrisy is the very weakest accusation one can level against someone. It's a mafia game, where we lie, bluff, gambit, and kill. And townies lynch the mafia for being murderers. And we accuse people for accusing people. And we have already been over this so many times in so many games.

Cry "hypocrisy!", scum, and die with that word on your tongue.

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johnhughthom 11:32 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
And we have already been over this so many times in so many games.
And how many times has it allowed the scum to slip by unnoticed?

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Andres 11:44 05-18-2011
Way to miss the point:

Originally Posted by :
While I made just one joke vote on Chaotix, you have been at his throat for several rounds now, yet last round, you unvoted him and switched to G_E. Odd, seeing how you wanted Chaotix lynched so bad for a long while now.
I carefully mentioned that there may be a connection between two scumbuddies, and you immediately jump at me with walls of text, attacking me from all angles. What you are not doing is addressing my point. In fact, you completely ignore it.

Attack is the best defense, eh?

You can throw walls of text at me as much as you want, the fact remains that you have been focusing on Chaotix for a long time, yet when the time comes to vote, you withdraw.

Two possiblities:

a) you're connected;
b) you wanted to keep your scapegoat alive.

I think it's b) and you're scum. Together with Scienter. The connection between you and Chaotix is too obvious to be a connection between scumbuddies. The connection between you and Scienter is much more subtle. In the previous round, you flattered me (scumtell) by saying my gut is golden, yet somehow you ended up voting God Emperor.

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Askthepizzaguy 11:49 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
Way to miss the point:



I carefully mentioned that there may be a connection between two scumbuddies, and you immediately jump at me with walls of text, attacking me from all angles. What you are not doing is addressing my point. In fact, you completely ignore it.

Attack is the best defense, eh?
You're certainly demonstrating such, both in this game and the other one I quoted you from.

Your tactic is the same. Attack the case. Go in with questions. Go on the offensive.

Attack the case, because even if the case is right, you can try to undermine it, by discrediting it.

It doesn't matter if the case is correct IF people no longer have any faith in it because:

1) The accuser is somehow hypocritical
2) You can pick on one thing you know may not be true, and focus on that
3) You can dismiss it as walls of text.


Originally Posted by :
You can throw walls of text at me as much as you want, the fact remains that you have been focusing on Chaotix for a long time, yet when the time comes to vote, you withdraw.
Yes, but when I voted for Chaotix, I put him INTO a tie, allowing an unknown tiebreaker event to possibly sudden death lynch "my partner".

You, on the other hand, have never actually placed Chaotix in any danger whatsoever.

Originally Posted by :
I think it's b) and you're scum. Together with Scienter. The connection between you and Chaotix is too obvious to be a connection between scumbuddies. The connection between you and Scienter is much more subtle. In the previous round, you flattered me (scumtell) by saying my gut is golden, yet somehow you ended up voting God Emperor.
Your gut is in fact golden, when you are townie.

But, your scum is in fact showing, when you are MAFIA.

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Andres 11:52 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Pizza:
Yes, but when I voted for Chaotix, I put him INTO a tie, allowing an unknown tiebreaker event to possibly sudden death lynch "my partner".
I just said I don't think Chaotix is your partner in the post right above yours'

It's ATPG and Scienter.

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Askthepizzaguy 11:55 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by Andres:
I just said I don't think Chaotix is your partner in the post right above yours'

It's ATPG and Scienter.
Originally Posted by Andres:
If there's a connection between scum buddies, than it's between you and Chaotix.
And above that, still, you say something else, which is precisely what I'm referring to.



Especially love the rolleyes, that's a nice touch.

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Visor 11:56 05-18-2011
Who wants to bet its actually ATPG and Andres?

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