The Campground [Concluded]

[Visor]

Don't worry, I'm here to help!

Unvote; Vote: Visorslash

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nifty...

unvote, vote: Chaotix

God Emperor loves Renata.

[Andres]

Vote : Scienter

Game over for you, mafiosa You might as well confess, you murderer

[Diamondeye]

FoS: People voting Zack

Vote: RR

[seireikhaan]

Vote: B_Ray

Long live the old history channel!

[johnhughthom]

Vote: The LastDays

Explain yourself sir.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I said I would flip a coin, but heck, would I really be me if I did that? My whole shtick is pretending to know what I'm talking about. So I am going to stare at the following two lists of posts until my brain gives me an inkling of what to do.

I'm not allowed to vote for either one unless I can give some reason... actual, somewhat logical reason, why one is clearly guilty and the other is not. I have almost two days to do this.

The first list is Yaseikhaan.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote: B_Ray

Long live the old history channel!

Vote: Diamondeye

False scum accusation- if you really think he is, vote for him, instead of trying to influence others to do your dirty work.

Everyone should vote for Diamondeye. The Heavens have spoken through their prophet, Reenk, and righteously pointed out Diamondeye's guilt.

Also, scummy post was scummy.

Vote: Scienter

I'm with andres' stomach on this one.

Two tests tomorrow, sweetie, and my profs seem to think that 30 hours a day is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to devote to school in what's turning out to be a lovely Iowa May. I'll give you that's not really a valid excuse for me acting like.. uh.. me, I guess, but anywhos....

I recall a bit ago you had a really spot on scum catch, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Andres

Grar... I told you, I've been getting my hat handed to me by my summer courses. Vote:Askthepizzaguy Because you being alive now means you'll never die, and I don't want to take that risk.

Noap. You get to keep living in this awful, terrible existence. That's your punishment.

Vote: TheLastDays

For basically the whole last day's worth of posts. They spelled out s-c-u-m.

Oh, naw, we gonna have a war, sir. Green power mandates we finish this delicious strawberry malt off.

That said, I'm just conflicted. I've got the epic of gilgamesh and a billion pages of accounting work and a playoff basketball game demanding attention. I just dunno I can get a solid difference between you and JHT. Since we're both fairly incompetent, you wanna strike a deal and vote for the only competent analyzer left?

The second list is Johnhughthom.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote:Zack

Amateur. You forgot your "If I was mafia I would..." line.

Vote: The LastDays

Explain yourself sir.

Because you're Ballsy and Ruthless enough to do so as scum?

Somebody who wins the game when they get lynched. I hate them. I hate them. They are horrible.

Vote: God Emperor

Such a lazy vote.

You could probably say that about a few players.

Vote: Chaotix

You want somebody to explain your own vote to you? My goodness, you really have managed to fool everybody into thinking you know what you're doing in this mafia lark.

Good stuff, thought I'd missed the phase. I'll read up when I've more time tomorrow and cast a vote then.

Im going to Vote: God Emperor

What exactly is the case on Scienter? She doesn't seem any different from how she normally plays to me.

You'll need to unvote first Visorslash, this is just an extension, not a revote like last time.

And how many times has it allowed the scum to slip by unnoticed?

Vote: Andres

I'm pretty sure the key to our scum is somewhere in that three way tie. Andres vote switch was the action that stuck out most to me.

Interesting.

I still don't see the case on Scienter. I was going to put some sort of scum buddy related humour here, but it has been ruined by Visorslash and Pizza for this game. Overdone guys, not cool, not cool at all.

Vote: khaan

I'd like to hear more from the horsey man. And less from Pizza and Visorslash.

I'm going to stick with Vote: khaan

Unvote, Vote: TLD

I wasn't going to bother, but this will stop any clever plans involving last minute vote switches.

I really should watch that some day.

If I need context I can click on the quote and re-read what was happening that day.

As for myself, those who wish to see all my posts can click this link.

[Csargo]

Chaotix: (4) ATPG, God Emperor, Visorslash, Scienter
God Emperor: (3) TheLastDays, Csargo, JHT
Scienter: (2) Andres, Yaseikhaan
ATPG: (2) Chaotix, B_Ray


When does the round end? This tally is not stable. Chaotix isn't going to leave his vote as-is going into his own possible lynch, and the other top two candidates for lynch are also voting for Chaotix, and they could easily jump ship if the Chaotix wagon changes. In other words, I suspect last-minute shenanigans going to happen. We need something more decisive.

Chaotix wants to vote for Scienter; I also placed an early suspicion on Scienter. Andres has the golden gut. I move off of Chaotix, onto GE or Scienter, and they could easily flip to me. It's a virtual 4-way tie at the moment.

Okay. I'll make the move, and pray it isn't a stupid one.

Unvote, vote: Scienter

I will murder you tonight, Chaotix.

I don't understand this Pizza. Why would you switch off of Chaotix? You had been going after him for a few rounds before this iirc.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Analysis of Yaseikhaan.

I will view each person from both perspectives, and see which makes more sense to me. That should hopefully eliminate some confirmation bias, and force me to be as objective as I can be.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Yaseikhaan does not vote day one.

No posts during Night one.

Vote: B_Ray

Long live the old history channel!

At the time, Zack was in the lead, and others had at least two votes on them.

I've noticed that Khaan has employed a "wagon everyone" strategy before as townie. See: Mafia IX. For him to sit back and lob quiet votes and non-leading candidates is interesting. What's more, I believe it was a concerted strategy from him because he does that for several rounds. That said, Khaan will employ a low-key strategy at times as town.

B_ray was innocent.

Day 2:

Zack: 5 (Csargo, Reenk, B_Ray, God Emperor, TheLastDays)
Reenk Roink: 2 (Zack, Diamondeye)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Chaotix)
Visorslash: 1 (Visorslash)
Andres: 1 (Scienter)
Chaotix: 1 (ATPG)
Scienter: 1 (Andres)
B_Ray: 1 (khaan)
TheLastDays: 1 (JHT)

Not voting: 1 (robbiecon)


No posts at all during the night phase.

Vote: Diamondeye

False scum accusation- if you really think he is, vote for him, instead of trying to influence others to do your dirty work.

This vote seems to have more teeth than Khaan's previous vote. It's aggressive, and casts doubt on Diamondeye's motivations.

Diamondeye was executed, and therefore, is a possible candidate for a scumbag.

The tally at this point is very low, only 1 or two votes per candidate.

ATPG: Chaotix
Chaotix: ATPG, GE
Scienter: TLD
B_Ray: DE
Csargo: Visor
Visor: Andres
DE: Reenk, Yaseikhaan

Everyone should vote for Diamondeye. The Heavens have spoken through their prophet, Reenk, and righteously pointed out Diamondeye's guilt.

Also, scummy post was scummy.

Khaan further encourages Diamondeye's death.

Chaotix: ATPG, GE
Scienter: TLD
B_Ray: DE
Csargo: Visor
GE: Johnhughthom
Visor: Andres
DE: Reenk, Yaseikhaan
Zack: Chaotix

God Emperor got a vote, but the tally seems comfortable enough not to provoke any reaction from Khaan even if GE were scum. Scienter as Khaan's partner wouldn't make sense either. I don't really buy Zack as scum.

I can't really cast any of this as unusual behavior, or even scum-motivated. DE had been voting for B_Ray, another townie.

Vote: Scienter

I'm with andres' stomach on this one.

Chaotix: Pizza, GE
Pizza: Chaotix
GE: TLD

Tally before the extension. I am of the belief that a scum would have voted here.

Of these people, TheLastDays and God Emperor are the only candidates for scum, other than myself.

I am seriously considering TheLastDays and God Emperor as our two highest likelihood of scum candidates.

Khaan missing a vote because he is busy is in fact plausible either way. He's missed days before in games where he's scum.


Chaotix: Pizza, GE, Visorslash, Scienter
Pizza: Chaotix, B_Ray
GE: TLD, Csargo, JHT
Scienter: Andres, Yaseikhaan

Many votes later, Khaan has a choice to jump on the wagon on innocent Chaotix, innocent Pizza, or likely guilty God Emperor. He goes with the quiet Scienter, backing up Andres vote.

Khaan still can switch to Pizza or Chaotix if necessary, should GE be his scum partner. Possible distancing motivation here.

Will follow this theory.

However, anyone, myself included, can and does follow Andres' gut instincts from time to time. I felt Andres could have been guilty, but I still followed up on Scienter just in case he was not.

The round ends and the tie is broken by several townies, lynching God Emperor with finality, possibly before Khaan can react.


B_Ray is slain, one of the people who voted for God Emperor.

Two tests tomorrow, sweetie, and my profs seem to think that 30 hours a day is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to devote to school in what's turning out to be a lovely Iowa May. I'll give you that's not really a valid excuse for me acting like.. uh.. me, I guess, but anywhos....

I recall a bit ago you had a really spot on scum catch, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Andres

After God Emperor dies, and Scienter is still alive, Khaan switches gears and goes for Andres.

This seems inconsistent to me. Says me, Captain Inconsistency. I'm still curious as to why Khaan doesn't follow up on Andres' gut?

Khaan also waits until late in the round to say much.

Grar... I told you, I've been getting my hat handed to me by my summer courses. Vote:Askthepizzaguy Because you being alive now means you'll never die, and I don't want to take that risk.

Excuses, Excuses.

Voting for me based on the above 'reasoning' is fail. Obviously he does want to take that risk, and has. In fact, he's still taking that risk.

Khaan waits until late in the round to say anything. At this point, Khaan could not save Scienter except by tying the vote.

Then again, Khaan doesn't really seem the type to go out of his way to save his partner anyway, which renders him hard to analyze.

Noap. You get to keep living in this awful, terrible existence. That's your punishment.

I believe you. I'm excellent lynchbait usually.

Vote: TheLastDays

For basically the whole last day's worth of posts. They spelled out s-c-u-m.

Vague.

Not waiting all round to cast his vote, which seems to imply he was doing it on purpose before.

Oh, naw, we gonna have a war, sir. Green power mandates we finish this delicious strawberry malt off.

That said, I'm just conflicted. I've got the epic of gilgamesh and a billion pages of accounting work and a playoff basketball game demanding attention. I just dunno I can get a solid difference between you and JHT. Since we're both fairly incompetent, you wanna strike a deal and vote for the only competent analyzer left?

Really don't know what to say to this. Something about it feels like it's being written like fake dialogue for a character that Khaan is playing.

Khaan loves his WIFOM. He's certainly capable of doing everything he's just done as mafia, regardless of JHT or my suspicion on him. What the scums have been doing is eliminating everyone who went after God Emperor, it seems.

After reading the whole thread again, I tend to agree with Andres that God Emperor maybe was guilty. I don't feel that from Scienter.

TheLastDays is also a top scum choice, somewhat implying that Johnhughthom is his partner. Khaan would bus his own partner though.

Dead scums are likely God Emperor or TLD.

Dunno what my verdict on Khaan is. There is an overall feeling of disingenuous behavior from him, given his odd voting record. Going from voting with Andres to voting for Andres while Andres' suspect is still alive doesn't feel right. Khaan doesn't follow up on me, which is odd. Many of his votes seem designed to not even cause a lynch to happen. Much of the time, he lurks through entire rounds, yet he picked up on my random FoS in his general direction for doing so and responded to it.

He is rarely aggressive, in fact only makes a couple of aggressive plays all game, and otherwise becomes a background figure, leaving his vote in places it doesn't make any difference.

Khaan as townie has been rather bloodthirsty before, and nowhere near this cautious.

I'll take a closer look at Johnhughthom and then sit on it for a while and let it stew.

I am leaning guilty, with a side of God Emperor. But we shall see.

Now, let's check out John.


Analysis of Johnhughthom.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote:Zack

Amateur. You forgot your "If I was mafia I would..." line.

I'd wager Zack was innocent. Just how he is.

Vote: The LastDays

Explain yourself sir.

TheLastDays is still a possible/likely scumbag.

Because you're Ballsy and Ruthless enough to do so as scum?

Somebody who wins the game when they get lynched. I hate them. I hate them. They are horrible.

Rather chatty for day one.

Vote: God Emperor

Such a lazy vote.

No chatting during the night phase.

Another vote on someone who was lynched. Interesting.

Both Khaan and John end up voting for almost everyone who got lynched. There's not much difference between them so far, except Khaan has also voted for known innocents.

You could probably say that about a few players.

Vote: Chaotix

John's first vote for a known innocent is during the DE/Chaotix tiebeaker. In fact, Diamondeye is one of the few suspected scums that John never voted for.

Not sure what that means.

You want somebody to explain your own vote to you? My goodness, you really have managed to fool everybody into thinking you know what you're doing in this mafia lark.

Good stuff, thought I'd missed the phase. I'll read up when I've more time tomorrow and cast a vote then.

What's the big deal if you miss a phase?

Im going to Vote: God Emperor

No follow-up on Chaotix, back to God Emperor, late to the wagon.

What exactly is the case on Scienter? She doesn't seem any different from how she normally plays to me.

The only time I can recall seeing you ask for a case on someone is when the person voted was your scum partner, in the Animus game.

Very odd behavior.

You'll need to unvote first Visorslash, this is just an extension, not a revote like last time.

John is watching the outcome of the three way tie, but not contributing to any discussion about it.

And how many times has it allowed the scum to slip by unnoticed?

I don't understand the purpose or point of this question. Just seems randomly chatty.

Vote: Andres

I'm pretty sure the key to our scum is somewhere in that three way tie. Andres vote switch was the action that stuck out most to me.

Seems contrived. Such a vague place to start from gives you a lot of ammunition to accuse basically anyone in that whole mess.

Interesting.

Response to Renata's post

I still don't see the case on Scienter. I was going to put some sort of scum buddy related humour here, but it has been ruined by Visorslash and Pizza for this game. Overdone guys, not cool, not cool at all.

This feels fakey.

Vote: khaan

I'd like to hear more from the horsey man. And less from Pizza and Visorslash.

Okay, I'm starting to see a pattern. John is placing his vote on people, based on other people's cases. It's as if he's allowing the momentum of others to determine his actions. He's consistently placing his vote on candidates that other people also wish to vote for, suggesting an overall strategy rather than honest scum hunting.

Khaan, on the other hand, votes for whomever, whether they're likely to be lynched or not. This is one of the few things that tells them apart.

I'm going to stick with Vote: khaan

John seems very focused on eliminating people with his vote. Khaan is more all over the place.

Unvote, Vote: TLD

I wasn't going to bother, but this will stop any clever plans involving last minute vote switches.

This sorta feels forced or nervous

I really should watch that some day.

Hmmm.

I'm not getting a leadership vibe from John, and I am getting a pattern where the murders very nicely compliment his lynches. He's come under no real pressure all game long from anyone, including myself.

You can see why I have difficulty drawing conclusions from this sort of behavior.

Okay. A thorough analysis of these posts leads me to the following conclusion:



You guys are both geniuses at leaving very few tells.

John in particular, I have a hard time saying anything about any given individual post which either clears or condemns him.

Khaan is ambiguous in general, but certain posts lean one way or the other. But John has no posts I can say for certain make me certain about him. The best I can even say is that certain things sound forced, fake, or not genuine. But even then, usually only vaguely. I can't specify why, I can only point to my gut. Renata's "tell" on John, being pressuring his partners, does not apply here, because almost everyone John has voted for has been the lynch target of certain days. One of the few lynchees he didn't vote for was Diamondeye, and he issued a rare vote for a now-known townie instead of lynching Diamondeye.

Khaan-
Early game, ends up leaving his vote on candidates who do not get lynched.
Early game, ends up voting late in the round.
Does not unvote, ever.
Bounces around. Accuses Andres' suspect, turns around and accuses Andres, while the previous suspect still lives.
Ideas of sparing his partner never seem to match Khaan's behavior.
Is fine with leaving threats to himself alive, has come under pressure.
Is alternately aggressive and passive, but mostly passive and lurky.
Doesn't seem to have either bussed or spared his partner, if he's guilty.
I could characterize Khaan as being less wagon-y than usual.
Seems to be reacting to events round-by-round.
Khaan has actively accused me and voted for me.

John-
Much more active and chatty than Khaan.
More consistent, chasing down certain candidates until they die, moving on to the next.
Odd comments regarding Scienter.
Seems to be watching the thread much more closely than Khaan.
Odd reasoning on Andres.
Seems to be following others' cases, not making his own.
Only unvotes once, to join TLD's wagon.
Possibly has bussed his partner, which is typical of him as mafia.
I could characterize John as being more chatty than usual, which is typical of him as mafia.
Seems to be employing a more long-term strategy than Khaan.
John has never once voted for me, which is unusual for him.

Both-
Not very chatty at night.
Have voted for almost everyone who got lynched, the grand majority of them were and are still suspected mafia.
Have voted for very few known innocents.



Khaan's behavior can be characterized as scummy because of the way he tends to wait for the outcome of the round to be decided before placing his vote, in the early two-thirds of the game. This can be coincidental, and it can also be thought of as a null-tell because he is constantly lurky no matter what his role is. His vote is also a bit all over the place, which contradicts being cautious... At times he seems too passive, and then other times he's aggressive. He's inconsistent. Difficult to suggest there's a master strategy at work, or at least one that is recognizable other than randomness.

John's behavior can be characterized as chatty, and he tends to make comments I find odd. His voting pattern seems eager to destroy certain people in particular, but he also doesn't lead the charge against anyone. Odds are good if he's mafia he has bussed his partner, which he adores. I feel he's paying close attention to this game, unusually so, almost as if he is babysitting the thread. I have never pressured him except for a brief moment when I wanted him to vote for Chaotix, but I noticed I could just vote for Chaotix myself and tie it up. The fact that he's never once accused me feels deliberate.

Of the two, John actually feels like he's in control of the game, and acting in deliberate fashion to avoid all the major mafia traps. Khaan's scummy behavior is more typical of him, and that means I cannot read him as being different than usual, other than his departure from pure wagoning. But that's not such a huge variation that I can draw conclusions from.

I feel John is acting different from usual in a way I can draw a general conclusion from, which is that he cares a lot about what's happening, and is more cutthroat than usual.


There's a dark part of my heart that wants to kill Khaan just because he's got the enormous grapefruits to play this way as scum. I feel his performance is game-winning regardless of alignment. He's been scum so many times that I would be very hard pressed to catch him for acting off. He would never behave nervously, and there is no sign of partner interaction. He's careful enough to leave no tells at all, and I looked for them.

Khaan feels bold and reckless. John feels simultaneously cautious and cutthroat, and almost nervous, for him.

I gotta be me. Analysis Pizza says John is the real culprit. If Khaan is mafia, he's beaten me very, very soundly, and with diamond cojones, and I like that.

[God Emperor]

FoS: People voting Zack

Vote: RR

Vote: Zack

Seriously though, your style has changed Zack. worth exploring (although this game doesn't offer reveals)

[Zack]

Vote: Zack

Seriously though, your style has changed Zack. worth exploring (although this game doesn't offer reveals)

I'm almost always an idiot like this in small games nowadays. Usually at least one scumbag votes for me when I do this act.

[Scienter]

Vote : Scienter

Game over for you, mafiosa You might as well confess, you murderer

What makes you think I killed her?

*gulps* A tricky question...

I'll be honest. I've never watched an entire episode. Sharpshooting isn't all that appealing to me, so watching lots of guys try to hit targets for 30 minutes at a time just doesn't provide that much entertainment. It's impressive, no doubt, but I'm more interested in facts, economics, and mental prowess, which is why Pawn Stars and American Pickers appeal more. Cause those shows are about guys using their business wiles and historical knowledge to make a living off trading, essentially. Like modern day caravan merchants. Fascinating stuff. That said, a gun and good aim would be tremendously more useful in this situation.

I don't entirely agree with you, but your rationale is good.

Yaseikhaan, are you dissing Pawn Stars? I wish the History Channel would show more... history. I really can't stand those paranormal and "Searching for Sasquatch" type shows. It's almost as bad as the Sci Fi channel showing wrestling.

[Andres]

What makes you think I killed her?

Why do you feel the need to defend yourself against what is obviously a nonsensical vote?

[Scienter]

Why do you feel the need to defend yourself against what is obviously a nonsensical vote?

I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

[Csargo]

Yeah Andres.

Lazy Andres is lazy. :(

[Reenk Roink]

I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

OOOOOOOOOOOO y'all got burned.

But shouldn't YOU be using a girl avatar if you are a girl? There are a lot of you types in Clinton, Iowa, and none of them are up to any good.

[Andres]

I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

It is perfectly possible that two people who vote randomly vote the same person.

Why do you think my vote was random?

[Chaotix]

Nifty...

unvote, vote: Chaotix

God Emperor loves Renata.

O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

[Askthepizzaguy]

O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

A scapegoat?

[Askthepizzaguy]

O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

The part in red is what feels fake to me. You sound oh-so-convinced. Are you?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Yes?

Ok,

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

I don't like self-votes.

No.

The answer is no. You're not convinced. I, on the other hand, am strongly leaning you being full of the scums.

You "don't like" self-votes? That sounds like weaker reasoning than Pizza is scum because he defended God Emperor. You wouldn't drop strong reasoning for weak reasoning.

[Visor]

And I unvoted that self vote 5 seconds later anyway.

I think he should've died last day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty Pizza, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

It's all the pizzaman's fault. I'm not tipping, and not because I'm dead.

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Ok, ATPG, I tried to convince myself it was nothing before, but now I am sure of it.

Your playing is off. Sure, you're joking around and all that, but you never decide to just throw a game and vote for whoever you like.

You always vote for who you believe the mafia is.

And today, you are not doing that. Because you know I am not mafia. So that leaves only one option.

Unvote, Vote: Askthepizzaguy

This camp isn't big enough for the two of us.

Sorry guys, been out of town all weekend, just got back. I'll go back over the replies tomorrow evening, but for now...
vote: Askthepizzaguy

And I'm saying listen to my gut, and lynch ATPG.

I just said I don't think Chaotix is your partner in the post right above yours'

It's ATPG and Scienter.

Who wants to bet its actually ATPG and Andres?

Lynch Pizza and Scienter, then worship me for being a genius

You're still guilty.

Why are you so eager not to defend yourself and only going for the attack?

I think you sticking to the attack is your way of showing you can't handle the pressure. You're guilty.

It's not unusual for a scummy Pizza to start sounding frustrated when being pressured.

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

@Reenk

Yes, Pizza has put Chaotix into the tie. One of the reasons I don't think they're scumbuddies and why I said it's probably option b), Chaotix is Pizza's scapegoat.

Once again, you are apparently only capable of attacking the posts of mine which happen to be clearly jokes. I already told you I was going to keep voting you till you die.

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

Just a couple of things of interest from looking at the votes from the previous rounds:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

TheLastDays has voted for the person lynched on every day.

ATPG has voted for the person lynched 3 out of 5 rounds

Csargo has voted for the person lynched 3 out of 5 rounds

ATPG and Scienter have voted together 3 out of 5 rounds(4 if you want to count Day 4 where ATPG switched his vote from Chaotix to Scienter towards the end of the round making it a tie. Scienter was never in danger since ATPG could have changed his vote at any time. They've also focused on Chaotix mainly up until the Andres lynch.

ATPG and Scienter have voted an innocent twice(Chaotix in both cases)

ATPG has also voted with JHT, TLD, and Visorslah 3 out of 5 rounds

Csargo and TLD have voted together 3 out of 5 rounds

JHT and Visorslash have voted together 3 out of 5 rounds

I have a strong feeling that ATPG is guilty. Scienter may be as well, but I'm not as sure. TLD is also a possibility but that's only because he's been in on every lynch.

Vote:ATPG

I'm torn between Visor and ATPG.

What. You know perfectly well that doesn't ring true.

Unvote; Vote: ATPG

Scienter is my first suspect.
ATPG is my second.
Csargo is third.

Grar... I told you, I've been getting my hat handed to me by my summer courses. Vote:Askthepizzaguy Because you being alive now means you'll never die, and I don't want to take that risk.

Oh, look at that.

Andres is dead.

Chaotix is dead.

Now the only people who were going after ATPG are dead and gone.

And guess who's going to get a free ride to the finish line?

Well played, ATPG, you've got the game in your pocket now.

Scum are ATPG and Scienter, ATPG bussed Scienter to get himself a free ride to the end.

And Pizza still sounds off.

Pizza should die this round.

Indeed it is. You're all fools for not seeing it sooner.

Oh god it's totally you two, isn't it?

Look at ATPG...

SO certain both he and khaan are going to survive the night.

It's almost as if he's the one calling the shots...

My gut says ATPG. My brain also says ATPG. Oh, well that's good then. No conflict between the two.

ATPG, when you win, this game will forever be known as "that game where nobody lynched ATPG even though they knew he was scum the whole time".

Well JHT is second on the list. That's who I would have voted if I was still alive, but since I'm dead you're my first choice.

... Again. It's ATPG. Pretty please, Khaan, with sugar on top.

I'm way out of the loop now but I did skim this round.

Atpg's behavior is extremely suspicious here. He is active almost instantly but delays the vote. Why? Well, one guess is he wants to see what the other two are going to do. I think that's plausible. Then we have the really long analysis, but they seem forced to me. Then again, most analyses will, but in this case, what also bothers me is that I remember Atpg not suspecting john at all and rather suspecting khaan. Now things might have changed in the last several days, but honestly it just kinda looks like he threw in his vote after khaan did to lynch whoever's going to get lynched.

Now, I did remember suspecting john like a while back but that was a while back. I guess I still do, but you guys know better with what's gone on.

I'd probably go with Atpg based on this round's actions and Csar's gut.

I think it's Pizza.

Yet again, the "DE is scum" argument is used to castrate my words. For once, listen! Reenk is right that I have been suspicious of Pizza for a long time. I can't see why a scummer would keep ATPG alive this long, I simply can't, and ATPG has been all "tee hee I am scum" all over the place. I'd feel better losing to JHT or Khaan. Letting Pizza run away with this one is a big no-no.

I know I don't have that mumch credit as a lynchee, but you need to at least consider it..!

I can't shake off how anxious Atpg has seemed here. One thing I forgot to mention aside from what's been previously mentioned is how I don't like the self-votes. Also, I really think john would care more if he was mafia here (but maybe something came up?).

johnhughthom and 'khaan are both players who are very difficult to read. When they're scum, it's difficult to catch them. Most people feel very uncomfortable if 'khaan and johnhughthom are still alive in the end phase, because both always have this smell of scum around them no matter what role they have or how they behave. So, for a mafioso who has been under a lot of fire during several rounds, like e.g. Pizza in this game, leaving those two alive isn't a bad idea at all.

If only 'khaan or JHT had been left alive, I'd be very suspicious of 'khaan or JHT, but both of them being alive now just smells like a calculated move.

It's Pizza.

Unvote: johnhughthom

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

First to blink is scum.

*Sprinkle magic dust*

[Andres]

You can add this one in:

Pizza seems so desperate that he simply MUST be guilty. In fact, if it turns out he's innocent, I won't believe it. It will be just another one of those fake endings. Whatever ending that lists Pizza as innocent is fake, fake, fake. He's guilty. G-U-I-L-T-Y. Do I need to spell it out again? P-I-Z-Z-A I-S G-U-I-L-T-Y.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You can add this one in:

Pizza seems so desperate that he simply MUST be guilty. In fact, if it turns out he's innocent, I won't believe it. It will be just another one of those fake endings. Whatever ending that lists Pizza as innocent is fake, fake, fake. He's guilty. G-U-I-L-T-Y. Do I need to spell it out again? P-I-Z-Z-A I-S G-U-I-L-T-Y.

I am nervous, very very nervous. Sweat is pouring down my face. My nerves are shot. My hands are shaking, trembling.... could this be it? Could this really be happening?


*leans in and kisses Andres on his bean-covered lips*



Whoooo! I feel better now.

[Andres]

I am nervous, very very nervous. Sweat is pouring down my face. My nerves are shot. My hands are shaking, trembling.... could this be it? Could this really be happening?


*leans in and kisses Andres on his bean-covered lips*



Whoooo! I feel better now.

NOW YOU MUST DIE!!!

NECROPHILIAC!

[Renata]

Well I'd still be voting for JHT, if I could. That doesn't mean I'm remotely confident I'm correct, about either of the other two of you.

Take it as a compliment, Pizza-scum.

[Andres]

With that post, he makes it impossible not to lynch him. We simply can't afford to let him live and then have him winning this game as mafia. Even if I would be 99,99 % sure that it's one of the other guys, I still would lynch Pizza. A 0,01 % chance that he wins this game as mafia after that post and all his claims of being mafia is a risk I, for one, wouldn't want to take.

If he's mafia and we let him live after that post and all those times he claimed scum, we'll all be the GR's laughingstock for years. No, can't have that. Even if GH would now make a post to say it's 'khaan or JHT, then we still need to lynch Pizza. Even if the chance he's mafia would be only 0,00000000000000000000000000001 %, we can't have it. No. Even if he would be guaranteed innocent, we can't have it. Imagine the host saying, "oops, mistake, I meant 'khaan, not Pizza". No, no, no.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh Andres, I do declare, I can barely walk after the loving you've shown me this game.