I just got pwnt.Originally Posted by Visorslash
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I just got pwnt.
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I'm fine with my vote on Andres. It shall stay where it is.
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I would like TheLastDays, Yaseikhaan, and Johnhughthom to weigh in.
Please feel free to use my summary of the game so far as a reference point. I'll remove the red from Andres and Chaotix' votes, that was a visual aid meant for me.
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Andres counted my posts! Awww.
I'm following the game and have actively been trying to participate because it's a vanilla game with not a ton of players and I'm trying to get better at mafia. I'm not up to Pizza's level where I can keep track of what everyone does and how everyone votes. But I've been watching carefully enough to try and defend myself when people want to hang me.Feel free not to believe me, we'll all know who's who when the game is over.
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I'm of two minds, presently.
While it is necessary and prudent to find someone you think is suspicious and must die, you must always consider alternatives.
I'm either right or wrong on Andres. The odds suggest I'm wrong, but I have some faith in my ability to spot scummy behavior. That said, if I am wrong, the very safest thing for the scumbags to do is just let all this discussion tear the townies apart as they accuse each other.
So, if I am wrong on Andres, I would wager that one of the folks who hasn't spoken yet this round is guilty and loving this. A typical Yaseikhaan tactic, so I'll place a Finger of Suspicion on my old nemesis.
FoS: Yaseikhaan for watching us fail.
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Two tests tomorrow, sweetie, and my profs seem to think that 30 hours a day is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to devote to school in what's turning out to be a lovely Iowa May. I'll give you that's not really a valid excuse for me acting like.. uh.. me, I guess, but anywhos....
I recall a bit ago you had a really spot on scum catch, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Andres
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Voting closed.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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Scum, SCUM, SCUM!!!Andres counted my posts! Awww.
I'm following the game and have actively been trying to participate because it's a vanilla game with not a ton of players and I'm trying to get better at mafia. I'm not up to Pizza's level where I can keep track of what everyone does and how everyone votes. But I've been watching carefully enough to try and defend myself when people want to hang me.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
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I'm trying to get better as well. That doesn't make Scienter scum.
Though the last bit.....
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Don't worry, I'm voting...
vote: Andres
imo his case is the strongest atm...
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You need to bold your vote. Also, Andres is spelled S-c-i-e-n-t-e-r.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
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You are full of it, Andres, and I intend to show why.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Day 3 you didn't follow up on Scienter, and Scienter didn't follow up on you.
In fact, you didn't follow up on Scienter again until day four, when Chaotix and God Emperor were the likely lynches already. You never put her in any real danger, in fact it was Khaan and myself who nearly got her killed, and the tie was broken by B_ray and Visor.
Later, I went after you hard, and now you're insisting on her death, in a single-minded and fakey fashion.
I conclude from this that it's actually quite possible that Scienter herself is your partner, oh king of the WIFOM. Now that you're my top suspect, you wish to prove how "serious" you are about wanting her dead, maybe to toss me off the scent?
If this is correct, kudos go to Renata who first proposed such an idea. I actually see where it is plausible now. Voting for Scienter when others are in the lead and there's no chance she'll die = useless vote as townie, distancing as mafia.
Voting for Scienter and campaigning hard for her death when you're a main suspect = further distancing. Especially if I have other suspects lined up instead of her.
Whatever the case may be, your actions are making Pizza see red. You're not genuine. There's something majorly wrong with you, Andres. If I'm wrong about that, I'm about due for another hat meal anyway.
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Andres, why did you vote TheLastDays on day three?
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I'm not entirely convinced of my own reasoning (though what else is new), but regardless Andres and Scienter should both die. Both are legitimately scummy. If it's neither of them and no mafia have been lynched already, it's either lurker scum like a Csargo/Khaan pair (and the town has failed already by not pressuring them while it was still early enough to afford to do so -- instead of, for instance, ZACK); or it's someone doing something fairly clever.
Here's the case on Scienter that Andres has persistently failed to highlight while simultaneously calling for her head:
Andres does his best impression of Sasaki.Vote : Scienter
Game over for you, mafiosaYou might as well confess, you murderer
Deflecting -- there's no possible case at this point, no need to take this seriously. So why does she?What makes you think I killed her?
"I find it interesting" is one of the scummier phrases out there. "Yeah, right, vote: Andres" -- that's genuine. "I find it interesting (insinuate, insinuate, insinuate), FOS Andres" -- scum.
Finally, the vote comes, at a point when Andres is in no danger of lynch. Scienter's never voted Andres since (unless she did at some point today).You yourself said that it was nonsensical.
Vote: Andres
Whether this is distancing or not, it is clearly suspicious from Scienter. The cautious, step-wise approach to accusing someone screams of unnerved mafia; the lack of follow-up only emphasizes the point. There are other scummy posts from her, but this is the best sequence to demonstrate it.
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"I find it interesting" is a scum tell, I agree. There are some phrases which are just plain fake.
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And JHT makes a fairly good partner for Scienter if it's not Andres. His votes minus day one have been SAFESAFESAFE, and I think the only time he questioned anything all game was to ask what the case was on Scienter yesterday ... flinch? I've said before the only way to reliably nail JHT is to pressure a partner; he is quite vulnerable that way.
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How so?
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