Teutonic Campaign: The Mongols

[frogbeastegg]

You must edit the game files before this faction is playable. To do so:

Open your main M2TW directory, then mods, teutonic, data, world, maps, campaign, imperial campaign, then the file called 'description_strat'. Edit the top section so it looks like this:

campaign		imperial_campaign
playable
	teutonic_order
	lithuania
	denmark
	novgorod
	mongols

end
unlockable
	hre
	poland

end
nonplayable
	norway
	kalmar_union
	slave
end

The Mongols do not have any victory conditions when modded into play.

[hellenes]

You must edit the game files before this faction is playable. To do so:

Open your main M2TW directory, then mods, teutonic, data, world, maps, campaign, imperial campaign, then the file called 'description_strat'. Edit the top section so it looks like this:

campaign		imperial_campaign
playable
	teutonic_order
	lithuania
	denmark
	novgorod
	mongols

end
unlockable
	hre
	poland

end
nonplayable
	norway
	kalmar_union
	slave
end

The Mongols do not have any victory conditions when modded into play.

I have a question how do i change the kings purse to not be negative?

[Monsieur Alphonse]

@hellenes

remove the - in front of the 2500 in the descr_strat.

It should look like 2500 in stead of -2500.

[hellenes]

@hellenes

remove the - in front of the 2500 in the descr_strat.

It should look like 2500 in stead of -2500.

THAANKKSSS MAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!

[Laman]

Started playing with mongols recently. Neither did I change victory conditions nor the kings purse. The victory conditions since I didn't bother, though planning on the standard amount of cities, with Krakow and Novgorod required. The negative kings purse may be an error by CA or WAD. Afterall you only have a small part of the Golden Horde territory, and most resources would go to more important fighting in the east- so if one does not want -2500, I would say just go with -500, 0 or 500.

Nevertheless, with -2500, one does not make any profit at start, one lose money (~2400 to begin with). So first ting is getting ones economy up and running. Let your diplomats sell trade rights for as much as possible (I also ended up allying with the TO, the only one who would accept alliance, have not spoken with the Polish yet though but I think it is unlikely that they accept as well). Conquer the independent settlements around, Lvov is very important (it allowed me to make a profit apart from the cash received from diplomacy), and don't be afraid to disband some units if you feel it is needed and they can't be used to grab yet another settlement.

Apart from economic woes, two problems arise. First your cities don't share your religion, they are orthodox while you are muslim. And the second is that all your starting family members are illoyal bastards, so keep your heir in his city where he won't rebel, while the other one heads with his army to nearest village, and assault it immediately.

Army is what one would expect. Infantry is basic spearmen and decent foot archers, the strength of the mongol army is the cavalry with its horse archers and lancers.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

when i cut and paste the mongols and other factions into the playable portion of the descr_strat, and then try to save my changes, i cant do it because it is a read only file, so then when i change the name to descr_strat1 or something, it says the path way is incorrect?
am i doing something wrong?

[Gaius Terentius Varro]

The negative kings purse may be an error by CA or WAD. Afterall you only have a small part of the Golden Horde territory, and most resources would go to more important fighting in the east- so if one does not want -2500, I would say just go with -500, 0 or 500.

The negative purse is there to prevent the AI Mongols from expanding too quickly. They (and Norway) don't get any financial help every turn either (7000 per turn to each faction on VH). I think the max purse in Teutonic is 1500.
I found the Mongols quite fun and replacing arquebusiers/musketeers with 4 units of rocket launchers worked really well

[ared00]

it is very good!!

[DisruptorX]

Not much going on in this thread, so I'll liven it up a bit.

Firstly, while the mongols start off with their generals using Khan's Guard, new family members will in fact receive proper general's bodyguard, which will help immensely, as the mongols cannot build heavy cavalry until you capture Polish or Teutonic castles.

In my game, I first captured neutral cities and built up an economy. All the computer factions seemed to not attack me for some reason. I then conquered Russia easily. Their horse archers are inferior to those of the mongols, so they are an easy target. Once you have access to mongol heavy archers, the Teutons should be next. I expected a tough fight, being that their military outnumbered mine, but they went down fast. They simply cannot compete with armies of heavy horse archers. Their knights, while strong, are easily bogged down by spearmen and attacked from the rear. I blitzed through the faction like lightning, only slowed down by citadels. I never assaulted those, instead waiting the 9 turns or so.

The polish put up a much stiffer resistance. Their very strong polish knights go straight for your lines, and will punch a hole straight through your very weak spearmen. I finally ended up combating them by sending my own knights directly at them.

By the time I reached the west, The Holy Roman Empire was no more and Denmark was all that remained. They, like the Teutonic Order, are no match for massed armies of heavy horse archers and Khan's Gaurd will destroy a full unit of Danish Axemen on a frontal charge.

As for your units, heavy horse archers are the MVP. Strong archery, strong armor, strong melee with maces. Once gunpowder becomes available, rocket launchers can single handedly win battles. I always keep them handy. Khan's Guard, obviously, are the best heavy cavalry in the game. Once you sack a few Fortresses and Citadels, you can start using them to sweep through your enemies. In the early game, use your generals offensively, as they are your only effective knights. Light lancers are good support, but cannot do the same sort of damage.

My ideal force is a general, 4 units of Spearmen, 4 units of foot archers, 2 rocket launchers, and the rest of the army made up of heavy horse archers (and khan's guard when they become available).

Your weakness will be seige battles. Your only non spear foot infantry are mongol infantry, which are not exactly stellar in a fight. They'll beat spearmen, but will be chopped to pieces by the heavy infantry of the Europeans. If you can get to the walls and use your archers to rain destruction on the defenders from their own ramparts, you can cause some serious damage, but if they bottleneck you around the front gates, your lightly armoured infantry will be slaughtered. I would never, ever recommend assaulting a castle with multiple walls unless you just feel up to the challenge and can afford losses. Of course, if the defenses are really, really light, go for it. A fun tactic when the enemy turtles in their town square is to wheel your rocket launchers into the city and bombard the town center from the roads.

The mongols are my favourite faction, so give them a try. Good luck finishing Genghis Khan's work!

[Alavaria]

The mongol infantry are seriously awesome troops. In fact my armies were initially composed of the starting horsemen (dwinding with every battle) and ever more Mongol Infantry and Spear militia.

I've also assaulted a few fortresses/citadels that had full stacks of Teutonic Order troops and won using a couple of trebs +1 catapault (for gate) and making full abuse of the infantry's awesome 9 ranged attack.

[Uykusuz]

hey guys i wanna play this campaign so bad but when i try to edit the file it says access to the file as denied and i it wasnt a read onnly file i checked guys pls tell mes?

[Myth]

You cannot edit the file while the game is running. Stop the game, make sure it's unlocked then try. If still not available, restart and try. If STILL not available, unlock it with this program.