Religion, moral and values.

[HoreTore]

Doesn't sound so moral to me, quite the opposite, in fact.

No, but for me, this is morality. To me, the opposite view is immorality.

Modern liberal '(human) rights' crybabyism is not the same as morality.

I fell like doing a breakdown of the collection of abuses usually called the ten commandments(lutheran version):

1: I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol.

ORLY?

This is totalitarianism. A human is free to think as they please, and choose how they please. I can't make me an idol? Have a look at my freedom of expression, and go join Stalin, Daffy and all the other dictators who gain sexual pleasure from controlling the minds of their population.

2. Do not take the name of the Lord in vain.

I can and I will, freedom of speech is vital in any society. Can't handle that? Go hide in a corner.

3. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.

No. Just no. I will work when I get the chance, at any day. I can organize my personal life on my own, thankyouverymuch.

4. Honor your father and mother.

No, I will not honour my parents because they are my parents. I will honour them if they in turn honour me. If they don't, I won't. Honouring people solely based on blood and kinship is plain stupidity, and the basis of any racist.

5. You shall not kill/murder.

Well duuuuuuuuuuuh... I am perfectly capable of knowing that killing other people is bad, I don't see the need for anyone to tell me that. What makes this commandment bad, is that it is used to justify the list.

6. You shall not commit adultery.

Yes, I will. Pre-marital sex is good and healthy, plain and simple.

7. You shall not steal

Same as for number 5.

8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Again, same as for number 5.

9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

Excuse me, but my neighbors wife is not his possession. She is not his to keep, if I want her and she wants me, it's right for us to be together.

10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Yes, I should want to own his possessions. This is the driving force of the capitalist economy, the desire to own more and more. This in turn has created extra-ordinary economic growth and is the reason why we have so good living conditions today. If I see a man living in a castle, I shouldn't be indifferent to it, I should desire to one day live in that casatle, which will motivate me to work hard, for the benefit of myself and society.