Religion, moral and values.

[Shibumi]

I think it is necessary. Some understanding that there are moral truths that transcend convenience and egoism is very important. I view morality as transcendental, the real question is; Is it? How do we know? Do we just say "because it is"? Isn't that the same thing as being a theist in a way? It is based on unknowable truths that you just accept defacto.

There is no morality without "God", only subjective actions that may or may not be polite but have no inherrent moral value, so cannot be good or bad objectively in the long term. Morality in the way we know it exists cannot exist without "God", loosely understood. A world without a plan just is. Most people who are iffy on God know what is right and wrong in a superlative sense, so maybe their beleif or lack of belief is irrelevant. The truth exists whether we believe it or not.

So, well, explain why Japan is not a nest of sins.

Edit: Why is it based on unknowable truths? Moral equal what is good in society - no?

So that is a truth right there, religion playing no part.

Why do we not murder our boss to take his job - because if everyone murdered the boss it would kind of not be very nice to be the boss.
Why do we generally honour our parents? Because we one day will be the parent, and we will assume we will have more life experience than our kids and would want them to respect it.

The list goes on.

Do your seriously believe that the christian moral code is some sort of invention? That prior to that people did not see a reason not to, say, kill?