Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
There are two seperate questions here being conflated.

1. Can someone be moral without God?

2. Can morality exist in a world without God?

Yes, to "1", no to "2". It is a philosophical impossability.
Your argument as to '2' is nonsense.

From the Stanford University Encyclopaedia of Philosophy:

The term “morality” can be used either

1. descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or,
some other group, such as a religion, or
accepted by an individual for her own behavior or
2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.
If you claim that morality cannot exist without God, then tell me which god. Because Odin's morality differs somewhat from that of Ganesh.