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[PanzerJaeger]

The modern conservative movement has its roots first and foremost with the old-stock blue blood anti new dealers who provided the intellectual captial, which could only be capitialized upon when the south defected because black people were tired of being lynched and beaten

This new found obsession with race and the South isn't healthy. Mr. Kruse's book was myopic at best, and certainly shouldn't be used as a singular foundation for one's understanding of modern conservatism.

[Strike For The South]

This new found obsession with race and the South isn't healthy. Mr. Kruse's book was myopic at best, and certainly shouldn't be used as a singular foundation for one's understanding of modern conservatism.

Oh geeze I post one book in the monastery and it gets thrown back at me

It is not a singular foundation but it rings really true. The south didn't defect becuase the dems went lib, I mean some of the biggest new deal supporters were poor southern whites. The first champions of big goverment if you will. It is only when the arm of government is used against their aparthiaed lite social structure does it begin to change. You also conviently leave out the first part of post where I talk about the anti-new dealers whom provided the intellectual capitial. The south was merley a vessel for manpower, no true ideas came from them they were all imported from other parts of America.

People like Phyllis Schalfy, Goldwater, and even Rockefeller fermented the IDEAS but you certainly don't have a Reagan revo without a south firmly in your corner and race is a big part of that, thier is no denying that

obessison? Do I dare mention a certain war? LOL. We all have our PASSIONS, obessions make me sound stalkerish....of course so do the police reports from old girlfriends

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[PanzerJaeger]

Oh geeze I post one book in the monastery and it gets thrown back at me

At least I'm paying attention.

It is not a singular foundation but it rings really true. The south didn't defect becuase the dems went lib, I mean some of the biggest new deal supporters were poor southern whites.

"Lib" entails more than just economic positions. The problem with Kruse's book is that it too focuses on one issue.

obessison? Do I dare mention a certain war? LOL.

Hehe, thank you for pointing out that enormous glass structure that I seem to be occupying.

Modern conservatism is a bunch of elites gaining support of the religious, the bigoted and a good portion of independents by abusing the language of classical liberalism to gain political power in order to secure their own financial interests at the expense of the public. They implement religious based social policies in order to placate such public so that they do not appear to look like charlatans.

The days of Goldwater, Nixon and Buckley are dead and the intellectual basis behind modern conservatism is non existent. Modern conservatism needs to be eradicated and replaced with libertarianism, which is much closer to the classical liberalism that the average joe wants when he votes GOP.

Modern liberalism is exactly the same but opposite. More financial abuse at the expense of the public but with more progressive social policies enforced to placate the base.

It's never the Fed, net neutrality, internet copyright laws or the regulation of financial derivatives that get shoved upon the people to argue about. It is always God, guns, gays, abortion.

I agree to a certain extent that both sides are caricatures of their former, more ideologically pure, movements. Most of what is argued about has long since been decided, but still tugs at people's emotions and thus their wallets.

[Strike For The South]

The issue of race?

Race is merley the underpinnig for the ideoligical shift.

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[a completely inoffensive name]

I agree to a certain extent that both sides are caricatures of their former, more ideologically pure, movements. Most of what is argued about has long since been decided, but still tugs at people's emotions and thus their wallets.

I am currently taking my sweet time going through F. A. Hayek's "Road to Serfdom" because I am lazy and love video games, but I have already been hit hard with a passage I will not forget for a long time from the 1956 foreword:

"It is true, of course, that in the struggle against the believers in the all-powerful state the true liberal must sometimes make common cause with the conservative, and in some circumstances, as in contemporary Britain, he has hardly any other way of actively working for his ideals. But the true liberalism is still distinct from conservatism, and there is danger in the two being confused. Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic, and power-adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place. A conservative movement, by its very nature, is bound to be a defender of established privilege and to lean on the power of government for the protection of privilege. The essence of the liberal position, however, is the denial of all privilege, if privilege is understood in its proper and original meaning of the state granting and protecting rights to some which are not available on equal terms to others."

[a completely inoffensive name]

This new found obsession with race and the South isn't healthy. Mr. Kruse's book was myopic at best, and certainly shouldn't be used as a singular foundation for one's understanding of modern conservatism.

Modern conservatism is a bunch of elites gaining support of the religious, the bigoted and a good portion of independents by abusing the language of classical liberalism to gain political power in order to secure their own financial interests at the expense of the public. They implement religious based social policies in order to placate such public so that they do not appear to look like charlatans.

The days of Goldwater, Nixon and Buckley are dead and the intellectual basis behind modern conservatism is non existent. Modern conservatism needs to be eradicated and replaced with libertarianism, which is much closer to the classical liberalism that the average joe wants when he votes GOP.

Modern liberalism is exactly the same but opposite. More financial abuse at the expense of the public but with more progressive social policies enforced to placate the base.

It's never the Fed, net neutrality, internet copyright laws or the regulation of financial derivatives that get shoved upon the people to argue about. It is always God, guns, gays, abortion.