Music Mafia [Concluded]

**Visor** · 06-07-2011, 12:18

Also, ATPG, my scan doesn't clear you two in any way. You could both have bad popularity. You only need to be bad on one. I'm just saying that you are both good favour with Diamondeye. If the other detective (if he/she isn't dead yet), who I believe can scan for popularity, could scan those two, so we know whether they are possible mafia, would be good.

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

**johnhughthom** · 06-07-2011, 12:24

Why would mafia need a detective ability to clear people Pizza? What an odd thing to say. Nearly as odd as Visorslash thinking there would be two detectives, I wonder was that edit to add the (If there is one)... I suppose the mafia may not know each other, why would you think there are two detectives Visorslash?

**Visor** · 06-07-2011, 12:26

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

That was my edit.

I think there is two detectives, because I can scan players, but I only find out their favour. I assume the other guy (again, if there is one) can only find out their popularity.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-07-2011, 12:26

Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Why would mafia need a detective ability to clear people Pizza?

Serial killer.

Two detectives also makes sense for the Good/Bad popularity and the favor with the DJ. As Visor points out, being cleared of one doesn't clear of the other. It's not proof until that scum is dead.

**Visor** · 06-07-2011, 12:28

I hate dying early. Good luck to the town, I don't see a rescue bandwagon coming my way. One day I shall be scum and you'll all be right. ;)

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-07-2011, 12:28

Originally Posted by Visorslash

I hate dying early. Good luck to the town, I don't see a rescue bandwagon coming my way. One day I shall be scum and you'll all be right. ;)

Only one? I think I can do better than that.

**Visor** · 06-07-2011, 12:30

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

BTW, I am good Popularity and Bad favour. So town.

**johnhughthom** · 06-07-2011, 12:31

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

It's all I ever seem to get these days, next one I get we'll swap.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-07-2011, 12:32

Oh gawd. I'm going to regret this.

Unvote, vote: Classical Hero

I just wanted to make you suffer a little bit for scanning me. Pizza no like. Bad medicine.

**Secura** · 06-07-2011, 14:06

Originally Posted by Visorslash

I was never mafia. :P I was joking around to get reactions.

I find it peculiar that you would vote for me on the basis of my own 'joking around to get reactions', and then do just that yourself?

Originally Posted by Visorslash

A DETECTIVE!

Proof: Secura and ATPG are both of Good favour.

Why would you take such a risk as a detective? And reveal your results too, since it's like you're condemning others to the sword as well as yourself.

You're supposedly an important role, yet you've drawn heaps of attention to yourself by masquerading as mafia and have been forced to reveal your hand... only the mafia has gained anything from this, particularly as a DJ favour scan doesn't allude to one's alignment.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I

You Secura, I knew you were innocent this entire time...

That and you know how I play... :P

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Pardon me for being paranoid.

You should be paranoid; your actions were baffling, to be perfectly honest.

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

It's a terrible strategy and it doesn't really give the town much room to act; this could be a ruse to confuse us and leave you alone, which is a decent tactic to try as mafia, particularly when you were under some pressure to begin with. Ergo, we should lynch you to be on the safe side.

However, it could all be a legitimate, if extremely foolish, townie gambit... in that sense, you've been revealed and the mafia will target you, which means that the town is losing a power role. This isn't like my own efforts to drum up conversation and gauge reactions, since I'm vanilla and completely useless in the grand scheme of things.

Really, we're damned if we do lynch you, damned if we don't.

**Secura** · 06-07-2011, 15:35

Originally Posted by Renata

Damned if we do ... well at the moment I think he's likelier to be town than not, so I'm with you there.

This is still a bad outcome no matter what happens; masquerading as mafia as ultimately led to Visor being outed as a town investigative role... even if we call his ability to scan DJ favour as a bit 'meh' (that's open to discussion though, I think it has it's uses), the mafia still have a power role to target over the coming night phases.

If you see no merit in his claimed ability, it's better to follow through on the lynch to be certain that he's not playing a Xanatos Gambit... I think that if we pooled together knowledge of what the goals are for each level of DJ favour, his ability would gain more use.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 06-07-2011, 12:25

Originally Posted by Visorslash

Also, ATPG, my scan doesn't clear you two in any way. You could both have bad popularity. You only need to be bad on one. I'm just saying that you are both good favour with Diamondeye. If the other detective (if he/she isn't dead yet), who I believe can scan for popularity, could scan those two, so we know whether they are possible mafia, would be good.

It does clear us as soon as the scum with bad popularity dies.

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

Too many self-votes means that you're not putting your vote on actual suspects. That implies a tactic wherein you have a special role or goal which doesn't help the rest of us. Case in point, my own failed flourish is a purely selfish thing that wasn't helping matters.

Unfortunately, maybe it means you had a good special role. You can't act too out of character or be unable to blend in as a good townie when you've got a special role, you'll attract attention and then be forced to claim and then it's no good anyway.

I can't tell you how many special roles I've mistaken for mafia. People act nervous when they get those for some reason.