Music Mafia [Concluded]

[Visor]

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

BTW, I am good Popularity and Bad favour. So town.

[johnhughthom]

Well I've never got a scum role yet. So everyone who has ever suspected I am guilty has been wrong.

It's all I ever seem to get these days, next one I get we'll swap.

[Visor]

@ jht

Sounds fine. I bet I go unnoticed. :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

Csargo tickles my funny banana. I think he should die shortly.

[Visor]

Unvote; Vote: Csargo

*Shrugs*

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh gawd. I'm going to regret this.

Unvote, vote: Classical Hero


I just wanted to make you suffer a little bit for scanning me. Pizza no like. Bad medicine.

[classical_hero]

Oh gawd. I'm going to regret this.

Unvote, vote: Classical Hero


I just wanted to make you suffer a little bit for scanning me. Pizza no like. Bad medicine.

Who one earth said I was a scanner? I am most definitely not a scanner. I am just an ordinary townie. Where is the love?

[Seon]

Wait a minute, classical? CLASSICAL? He must be Suzuki, Git'em boys!

[TheLastDays]

He was saying the part about scanning to Visor, classical...

[classical_hero]

WEll voting for me would want to make me suffer, so that is wher I got the idea from. Perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

WEll voting for me would want to make me suffer, so that is wher I got the idea from. Perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear.

Context provides necessary clues; be sure to read the whole thread before responding. It was clear from context what I was saying, since I had been talking to the guy who claimed scanner.

[Secura]

I was never mafia. :P I was joking around to get reactions.

I find it peculiar that you would vote for me on the basis of my own 'joking around to get reactions', and then do just that yourself?

A DETECTIVE!

Proof: Secura and ATPG are both of Good favour.

Why would you take such a risk as a detective? And reveal your results too, since it's like you're condemning others to the sword as well as yourself.

You're supposedly an important role, yet you've drawn heaps of attention to yourself by masquerading as mafia and have been forced to reveal your hand... only the mafia has gained anything from this, particularly as a DJ favour scan doesn't allude to one's alignment.

I You Secura, I knew you were innocent this entire time...

That and you know how I play... :P

Pardon me for being paranoid.

You should be paranoid; your actions were baffling, to be perfectly honest.

Well done folks. I assume my acting as mafia strategy and joking around is what got me lynched? I hope you haven't killed the other detective yet. (If there is one). There are a lot more players who are bad for the town than me... reminds me of the Chamber.

It's a terrible strategy and it doesn't really give the town much room to act; this could be a ruse to confuse us and leave you alone, which is a decent tactic to try as mafia, particularly when you were under some pressure to begin with. Ergo, we should lynch you to be on the safe side.

However, it could all be a legitimate, if extremely foolish, townie gambit... in that sense, you've been revealed and the mafia will target you, which means that the town is losing a power role. This isn't like my own efforts to drum up conversation and gauge reactions, since I'm vanilla and completely useless in the grand scheme of things.

Really, we're damned if we do lynch you, damned if we don't.

[Renata]

Damned if we don't only if he is in fact mafia. If he's town, he might not even be killed at night. Favor is not alignment, and he only detects favor. While it's likely there is some use for such a role, it doesn't detect mafia. (And, btw, because of that, it is strongly implied that he does have the ability he claims, even if he is mafia, because mafia shouldn't be able to guess that very easily. Now if you and/or ATPG have been running around telling your character names or if you are also mafia, then that's different. Note also that his result doesn't clear either of you of being mafia.)

Damned if we do ... well at the moment I think he's likelier to be town than not, so I'm with you there.

[Visor]

I find it peculiar that you would vote for me on the basis of my own 'joking around to get reactions', and then do just that yourself?

Cause I'm awesome.

Why would you take such a risk as a detective?

Cause I was being bandwagoned. If I got the town to focus on someone else, the town would kill another suspect, I would be nightkilled, and I wouldn't be a suspect or could be accused of lying, as I would be dead.

And reveal your results too, since it's like you're condemning others to the sword as well as yourself.

What...? Everyone already knew you were good favour IIRC (I think you stated it), I wanted confimation. I had to prove that I was the detective so you wouldn't waste a lynch on me.

You're supposedly an important role,

Not really.

yet you've drawn heaps of attention to yourself by masquerading as mafia

Masquerading as a clown.

have been forced to reveal your hand... only the mafia has gained anything from this, particularly as a DJ favour scan doesn't allude to one's alignment.

Because I was bandwaggoned upon.

You should be paranoid; your actions were baffling, to be perfectly honest.

To others, not to myself.

[TheLastDays]

Then please tell me, Visor, what benefit exactly did the town have from your whole "I'm Mafia, lynch me, lynch me, lynche me"-parade? How did it help?

[Visor]

It wasn't designed to help the town as a whole. It was designed to help me build cases.

[Askthepizzaguy]

MOVING ON....

[TheLastDays]

So, what cases did it help you build? Tell us so that we might at least have something coming from it, if it actually helped identify scum I'd say it was worth losing a power role with a rather "meh" power...

[Captain Blackadder]

In that case pray tell what cases have arisen as a result of this tell us whom you find suspicious and why based on their response to your I'm Mafia lynch me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

In that case, would you please explain what cases you..... oh.

[Secura]

Damned if we do ... well at the moment I think he's likelier to be town than not, so I'm with you there.

This is still a bad outcome no matter what happens; masquerading as mafia as ultimately led to Visor being outed as a town investigative role... even if we call his ability to scan DJ favour as a bit 'meh' (that's open to discussion though, I think it has it's uses), the mafia still have a power role to target over the coming night phases.

If you see no merit in his claimed ability, it's better to follow through on the lynch to be certain that he's not playing a Xanatos Gambit... I think that if we pooled together knowledge of what the goals are for each level of DJ favour, his ability would gain more use.