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[strategos roma]

I'll take Isigonos Kleopatrites.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

He is yours!

Damn.. Now I have to find another character for myself..

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Btw, This is the Personal Finances info I promised. Here are listed how to gain mnai and how to spend it.

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Basic Income Sources

Estate
Cost: 2000 mnai + Recruitment cost of supervisors
(Supervisors - Either skirmishers, archers or slingers who are needed to keep the fort disappearing)
Income: settlement taxes + farming income
Misc:
1) Can only be built in Homeland territories with Type 1 government.
2) Cannot be built by the Clients.
3) If the fort is left ungarrisoned and it disappears then person who lost it must pay another 2000 mnai to rebuild it.
4) If there are Brigands in the same province as Estate then it will get 50% income penalty.
5) If Enemy army is in the same province as Estate then it will get 75% income penalty.
6) Supervisors are considered Private units.
7) Only one unit is considered Supervisors.

Sea trade
Cost: 500 mnai per cargo ship
Income: Export + Import of a trade route.
Misc:
1) Ship owners must at the start of each year declare in a Royal Treasury thread that they have signed a trade contract.
2) Trade Contract - Player must choose Home and Target ports.
3) Players can have only one trade route at the time.
4) Each Player can have maximum of 15 ships.
5) Each ship have upkeep cost of 50 mnai.
6) If there are Pirates close to the Home/Target port then there will be 50% Income penalty.
7) If Pirates or Enemy fleet blockades Home/Target port then there will be 100% Income penalty and the possibility to loose ships.

Loot from Battles
Cost: n/a
Income: The number of enemies / 2
Misc:
1) Battles against Brigands do not give Loot.
2) If enemy settlement is conquered then the general who captured it will receive the Loot(how much is gained depends whether Occupy, Expel or Enslave was chosen).


Other Income Sources

Corruption
Income: Corruption penalty from the Settlements Details
Misc:
1) Only for Officials.
2) Must be present in the city.
3) Will be automatically transferred to the Hidden Account.
4) Player who wants to use this option should PM Ibn-Khaldun.

Expenditures

Anonymous Messengers
Cost: 50 per message
Misc:
1) If Player want's to send an anonymous message to another Player then he should PM his text to Ibn-Khaldun who will then forward it to the right person.
2) The Person who received the message can reply without paying anything.

Fiddle with the votes
Cost: 500 mnai
Misc:
1) During voting period Players can PM Ibn-Khaldun and ask to increase/lower Influence of another Player. Influence can not go lower than 1!
2) Players can use this power also on themselves.
3) This can be used only once during voting period!

Assassination attempt
Cost: 1000 mnai
Misc:
1) No, you can't kill another avatar this way!
2) The success depends on the traits and ancillaries of the target.
3) If succsessful, then the target cannot move during the next turn.
4) Teleporting option cannot be used if the attempt was succssessful.

Other

Hidden Accounts
Misc:
1) Can be used once a year(4 turns).
2) Player should PM Ibn-Khaldun and say how much mnai he wants to hide.
3) Hidden mnai can be used the same way as unhidden one.
4) Players can't hide more than 1000 mnai per year.

Slave Trader
Misc:
1) Every Player can buy whatever retinue member/item that other Players have transferred to the "Slave trader"(Rule 2.3).
2) Each of these retinue mebers/items cost 100 mnai.

I am certain that there will be some more options in the future.

Some more news:
a) I decide to call the game "Kings of the Nile". Hope you don't mind?
b) I'm going to create some threads soon so that you could start roleplaying!
c) The game will start with the Emergency Council Session called by the Chancellor Eunostos Kypriakos. I will play him during the Council session. After that I will get another avatar.
(Why is it that this guy always manage to live over 80 in all my games as Ptolemaioi?!)
d) Here is the starting sum for each player:

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios (aka TCV) - 5000 mnai
Leontiskos Thraikikos (aka johnhughthom) - 4000 mnai
Everybody else - 3000 mnai

e) If you want to build an estate then let me know and I will do it. Will spawn a supervisors unit there as well.
f) If there are any questions then please ask! I'm here to answer them!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

From now one all OOC talk should be made in this thread here - KotN OOC thread

[Skullheadhq]

Can I still join? If so, Kydrogenes Epiphanes please.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Of course you can. Welcome aboard! And Kydrogenes is yours!

[Folgore]

Hey guys,

I haven't played EB in quite a while, but when I checked the forum yesterday I noticed this game in Ibn-Khaldun's signature and it looks really cool. So I've reinstalled EB and I would love to join. I've checked the characters available and I would like to be Timon Arrhidaeos, one of the RGBs just outside Memphis. I hope I can still join.

Regards,

Folgore

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Welcome Folgore!

Yes, you can join. Unfortunatelly, you missed the first Council Session but You are still allowed to vote. Check the Rules and if something is still unclear then PM me or ask your questions in the OOC thread.

[Paul D]

Howdy guys! I am a longtime player of EB, but I just happened across this today.

How do I get started?

Also, I ran your saves to make sure that we were running the same version: I seem to be able to play your campaign without installing your PBM mod- but I will install it anyway.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Howdy guys! I am a longtime player of EB, but I just happened across this today.

How do I get started?

Also, I ran your saves to make sure that we were running the same version: I seem to be able to play your campaign without installing your PBM mod- but I will install it anyway.

You have to install the PBM mod since we are using different EBBS script and there are some other changes(important to the one who is ending the save montly) there.

Also, we have one FM available. You can view hin in the first post. If you don't like him then I can always recruit a RBG for you.

However:

2.6 Patronage system

Incase a Player wants to join the game but there is no avatar available at that time then he may ask one of the existing Players to be his Patron.
Patrons pay the recruitment cost of a RBG from their private finances. New player is then considered his Client.
Patrons receive +1 Influence bonus for every Client they have during Council Sessions.
Clients have to repay the recruitment cost to the Patrons in order to end the patronage.
Clients cannot own Estates.
If Clients end the patronage before they have repayd the recruitment cost then Patrons can during the next Council Session prosecute the Client and demand the Council to punish him.

[Paul D]

I installed your mods, everything is in working order.

Is part of your script so that recruited generals don't give a penalty for being in cities? I hope so, or else we would have some awful unrest problems!

Recruit me a general please.
I saw that guy ingame (Hermon Alexandreianos). To be honest, he is much suited for being a character who just governs a core city of ours, as he seems to have traits that reduce squalor in a settlement he governs, so maybe we should send him off to one of our other big crowded cities for governing.

On that note, if clients cannot own estates, how exactly are they supposed to pay back their patron? Fight an excessive amount of battles against huge enemy armies? Or trade boats? Personally, I don't want an estate anyway, I want them trades.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I installed your mods, everything is in working order.

Is part of your script so that recruited generals don't give a penalty for being in cities? I hope so, or else we would have some awful unrest problems!

Recruit me a general please.
I saw that guy ingame (Hermon Alexandreianos). To be honest, he is much suited for being a character who just governs a core city of ours, as he seems to have traits that reduce squalor in a settlement he governs, so maybe we should send him off to one of our other big crowded cities for governing.

On that note, if clients cannot own estates, how exactly are they supposed to pay back their patron? Fight an excessive amount of battles against huge enemy armies? Or trade boats? Personally, I don't want an estate anyway, I want them trades.

Yes, Clients can use trade routes. These generate more money than estates. However, check the game once in a while and resign the trade contract.

Recruited general trait will be removed from RBG by me.

[Paul D]

Oh, alright.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Find yourself a Patron who is willing to pay the recruitment cost of your RBG unit.

[The Celtic Viking]

I will be his patron and pay the cost his recruitment.

[johnhughthom]

Isn't there a family member coming of age next year? Surely Paul D could use him without TCV having to pay a recruitment cost.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

True, Philadelphos' second son will become of age this spring(i think).

[Paul D]

That sounds like a good idea. It will have the same effect for me anyway, as it would take the same amount of time.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

That sounds like a good idea. It will have the same effect for me anyway, as it would take the same amount of time.

Good, then it is decided.

[Paul D]

Dang, he's a wuss. Oh well.

So can I make a post in the character thread?

[Vasiliyi]

Im in if there is still a spot.

[The Celtic Viking]

Yes, there is. There are currently two available FMs to choose from, Alexandros Thraikikos or Hermon Alexandreianos. For their mug shots check the spoilers below. Alternatively you can also have someone sponsor you to raise a RGB (creating a Patron-Client system as described in the rules point 2.6).

Alexandros Thraikikos:

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Hermon Alexandreianos:

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[Vasiliyi]

Alexandros Thraikikos please

[The Celtic Viking]

Alright, he's yours, and you can start playing with him right now. You should know that you have an estate outside of Alexandreia and you have three Hetairoi Aspidophoroi as private units in Alexandreia.

Welcome aboard!

[johnhughthom]

Yay! I have a brother again! And it's Vasiliyi! Long time no see Vas.

[Vasiliyi]

after much thought, i have to back out of this. I dont think Ill be able to commit enought time for this. i could maybe do 2-3 turns a week, but not everyday.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If you give some instructions to the Chancellor then you actually don't have to be here every day. That is why we have "status and orders" thread.

[Hamata]

Sweet an egyptian rpg i'll defnitaly join this but how do i do that?

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, it's not really so much an "Egyptian" rpg as it is an eastern Greek one. :p

Welcome aboard anyway!

You join up by either selecting one of the avatars already available (currently that's Alexandros Thraikikos and Hermon Alexandreianos, you can find the mug shots of both a few posts up), or by having someone else sponsor you by paying for the recruitment of a new RGB. The second choice would create a patron-client relationship between you and whoever sponsored you, in simplified terms making you a dependant of him (you can see the rules for the exact terms).

That's the barebones of what you need to do to participate in this game. However, if you want to actually do something in-game, you should make sure you have a clean installment of EB 1.2 with all the fixes, and then install the KotN-mod as well as the Force Diplomacy mod. Then you can download the save and make your changes in it.

[Hamata]

I'll join but can I be a rebel?