Article about Petra (mainly german)

**ziegenpeter** · 05-30-2011, 11:14

Good day fellow EB-Fans!
Today I stunbled upon an article about the city of petra and its baths. Its in german, but those of you who don't speak german kann still check out the movies (just click the arrows) or the pics ("Fotostrecke")
There sometimes translations of SPIEGEL articles, but I don't know where, maybe a fellow german can find them.
So long...
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/m...763981,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/flash/flash-26006.html

**Kival** · 05-30-2011, 12:27

I've only found a website in english about the project: http://www.auac.ch/iubp/ The articles of the SPIEGEL about science are not translated as far as i know but then I also really do not like this magazine ... so i'm not sure

**Moros** · 05-30-2011, 12:54

Yes personally I'm anxious to see the results when of the future expeditions, when the real digging will be done. Personally I wasn't that surprised about it. there already was this fancy pool complex (see: http://petragarden.homestead.com/poolcomplex.html), the complex and meticulous water supply, typical Roman and Hellenic buildings (theather,...). Add the Rock Carved Tombs and all, it must have been a marvellous city in it's day and age. Still is actually, sadly I've not yet been able to visit Jordan.

**fomalhaut** · 05-30-2011, 17:50

I parsed through it yesterday, not good enough auf Deutsch yet to be able to get many of the details, but my perception of Petra is definitely changed. I didn't realize the Hellenic influence as well as the infrastructure. very impressive for what was seemingly a nomadic desert people. The Nabateans in EB1 don't really get a proper representation

**Moros** · 05-31-2011, 00:52

Originally Posted by fomalhaut

I parsed through it yesterday, not good enough auf Deutsch yet to be able to get many of the details, but my perception of Petra is definitely changed. I didn't realize the Hellenic influence as well as the infrastructure. very impressive for what was seemingly a nomadic desert people. The Nabateans in EB1 don't really get a proper representation

I remember some north Arabian units were being planned for EBI, but didn't get there because the arab historians disappeared.

Also note that the true hellenizing of Petra began only in the first century BC. Some argue that especially after the capture of Damskos around 86 BC (IIRC). But a lot of it is AD and much is even Roman itself (106AD and later).

**Tanit** · 05-31-2011, 03:12

Yeah, my time in Petra was wonderful, even spent time doing some personal research at the Amman ASOR library. And yeah, the city is and must have been impressive, the giant temples and market in the center are very nice. And although a lot of the construction we know comes from the later hellenistic period, the tombs carved into the cliff face go all the way back to the Edomite period, though not as elaborate in those days.

**fomalhaut** · 05-31-2011, 04:31

Originally Posted by Moros

I remember some north Arabian units were being planned for EBI, but didn't get there because the arab historians disappeared.

Also note that the true hellenizing of Petra began only in the first century BC. Some argue that especially after the capture of Damskos around 86 BC (IIRC). But a lot of it is AD and much is even Roman itself (106AD and later).

what kind of North Arabian or Nabatean units could be in EB or even EBII?

What was the function of Petra? as in was it just the commercial and political hub of the Nabatean traders and such? Again my perception of the Nabateans are as illusive desert nomads which is why a city as magnificent as Petra is so outstanding.