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    Default Re: Faction pitch idea: To fill the gap in Carpathian basin

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    my input in game balancing terms as i am completely ignorant on this culture and region: great idea, fills in the power gap between Rome, Boii, Sweboz, Dacia and Epirus. I am also very interested in the Illyrian culture and EB is a great teaching tool for that.
    Exactly, because in my experience, the Aedui completley ignored the area, the Epirots were too busy fighting first the Mak's, then KH, the only faction that tried to seize the territory was the Getaii, and the Romanii much later on in the game, however with the Boii, after at least 10-15 years we would see a stalemate developing with the Boii and the Getaii, having the Illyrian territory neglected, whilst the Boii will either get steamrolled by the Swéboz, or the Romans much later on, in terms of game balancing, the Pannons would be excellent, creating a buffer state between Greek expansion along the coastline, preventing an easy Roman landing near the Epirots [provided you do not want to go to war with them] and transforming the Carpathian basin to an ongoing war zone such as Greece, or the Selecuids war with the vassal states.

    However, in the starting period Illyria just doesn't seem to have that great an impact on the world, I could see them part of perhaps an emergent faction, not quite sure how that works in Kingdoms, im MTW2 you had two slots, one for the Timurids, one for the Mongols, thus creating a non playable Illyrian faction, that would emerge somewhere during 200 BC, however that destroys the dream of planting a Pannon banner on the Forum Romanum....

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    Default Re: Faction pitch idea: To fill the gap in Carpathian basin

    I'm quite confident the gaming experience will be very different from EB I's: diplomatic standings, bigger map with better geography, somewhat different borders...
    And yes it would be a pitty to have the Illyrian culture "lost" in few regional troops...

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    Default Re: Faction pitch idea: To fill the gap in Carpathian basin

    A sneak peak of things to come.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Dalmatia---------------------------Pleuratus------------65------------Governor
    Dalmatia---------------------------Argon------------16------------Wandering



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    wandering general pretty much confirms this faction is a no go. :/

    i'm totally fine with Syracuse not getting a faction compared to this, just because at least the culture group of Syracuse is ultimately Hellenic, as Hellenic as Hellenes get really. But Illyrian culture is so alien to me, just as Dacian, Celtic, Iberian, Germanic and Tin Island Celts, Sakae

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    Default Re: Faction pitch idea: To fill the gap in Carpathian basin

    Either that or the Ardiaei are a new faction, Agron was Teuta's husband...

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    Much love Tanit, well then I guess that's it, I long for the day when EB finally comes to a version of Total War that will have unlimited faction slots, anyway thanks for the feedback, I await your newest, (and always magnificent) preview.

    Btw: Arjos you are right, Pleuratus was the name of the Ardiaei's first king, and a number of later princes in the dynasty held his name. A short introduction on who they are exactly:

    Ardiaei or Vardiaei (Greek,"Ἀρδιαῖοι" or "Οὐαρδαῖοι", Latin, "Vardiaei"), was an Illyrian tribe, residing inland, that eventually settled on the Adriatic coast.Polybius (203 BC–120 BC) writes that they were subdued by the Romans at events that occurred at 229 BC.Appian (95 – 165) writes that they were destroyed by the Autariatae and that in contrast to the Autariatae had maritime power.In the Epitome of Livy they are said to have been subdued by the consul Fulvius Flaccus.

    The ancient geographer, Strabo, lists the Ardiaei as one of the three strongest Illyrian peoples - the other two being the Autariatae and the Dardani.

    King Agron, son of Pleuratus who belonged to the ruling house of the Ardiaei, disposed of the most powerful force, both by land and sea, of any of the kings which had reigned in Illyria before him.

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    Default Re: Faction pitch idea: To fill the gap in Carpathian basin

    Would be nice if they get a "piracy" income bonus, actually on the line of S2TW anyone things specific traits for factions are something too "videogamish"?

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