War on Drugs has Failed... and in Other News the Sky is Blue

**Fragony** · 06-03-2011, 17:49

Originally Posted by Samurai Waki

See I'm not convinced of that. A heroine addict is always going to be a heroine addict, as long as they don't get treatment they are more likely to do desperate and stupid things for their fix.

User is just at the end of it, use it myself, use weed and sometimes cocaine in weekends. Not the point, you can't just kill the war on drugs it has a mind of it's own

**Samurai Waki** · 06-03-2011, 18:01

Originally Posted by Fragony

User is just at the end of it, use it myself, use weed and sometimes cocaine in weekends. Not the point, you can't just kill the war on drugs it has a mind of it's own

Users are the end target, and the source for generating the wealth Drug Lords use to "fight" the War on Drugs. Just looking at the Mexican Cartels, they're arguably more powerful than Mexico's own military, and some, such as Los Zetas are trained on par with special forces. Taking away even just Marijuana from them would severely cripple their ability to generate the massive amounts of capitol they make.

**Fragony** · 06-03-2011, 18:23

Originally Posted by Samurai Waki

Users are the end target, and the source for generating the wealth Drug Lords use to "fight" the War on Drugs. Just looking at the Mexican Cartels, they're arguably more powerful than Mexico's own military, and some, such as Los Zetas are trained on par with special forces. Taking away even just Marijuana from them would severely cripple their ability to generate the massive amounts of capitol they make.

My point, things would get much worse. Never wake what's dorment, legalising drugs, just think of who you are messing with

**Samurai Waki** · 06-03-2011, 18:36

There's a chance it could get ugly, but it hasn't been that good to begin with... Cuidad Juarez/Fort Bliss are already battlefields in all but name.

**B-Wing** · 06-03-2011, 18:57

Originally Posted by Samurai Waki

Taking away even just Marijuana from them would severely cripple their ability to generate the massive amounts of capitol they make.

And how does one do that? I mean, it's grown in Mexico, right?

**Fisherking** · 06-03-2011, 19:21

You know, the war on drugs was lost during the Papa Bush administration.

I am not sure it was ever a fight they wanted to win.

Most police agencies like it though because it gives them added powers, military gadgets, and federal money.

Ending it would be a boon to everyone but the drug lords who might have to lower their prices.

The money could be better spent elsewhere but some how government always manages to find bigger and better ways to waist money.

**Fragony** · 06-03-2011, 19:50

Originally Posted by Fisherking

You know, the war on drugs was lost during the Papa Bush administration.

I am not sure it was ever a fight they wanted to win.

Most police agencies like it though because it gives them added powers, military gadgets, and federal money.

Ending it would be a boon to everyone but the drug lords who might have to lower their prices.

The money could be better spent elsewhere but some how government always manages to find bigger and better ways to waist money.

How? So easy we should just do that. But you can't it's not possible

**Fisherking** · 06-03-2011, 20:06

Originally Posted by Fragony

How? So easy we should just do that. But you can't it's not possible

Well, I wouldn’t worry much about it ending just yet.

Only god knows how much the US pays everyone to peruse this farce.

The whole issue is a comic tragedy of epic proportions.

It started with a scam and it is still going. The timber industry wanted to end competition with hemp farmers, just like prohibition was about ending alcohol competing with the oil industry.

It didn’t end society when it was legal.

I don’t favor drug use but I don’t like being sold a bill of goods either.

**Centurion1** · 06-03-2011, 20:27

drugs should not be destigmatized. They are not good for you and should never be encouraged...... also not all drugs should be legalized. Do you really want legal meth and crack heads running around.

**Samurai Waki** · 06-03-2011, 19:52

Grow it in the USA? It grows exceptionally well here.

**Tuuvi** · 06-04-2011, 04:59

Originally Posted by Samurai Waki

Grow it in the USA? It grows exceptionally well here.

Interestingly enough the Mexican cartels already grow marijuana in the US.

**Samurai Waki** · 06-04-2011, 05:56

Originally Posted by Chuchip

Interestingly enough the Mexican cartels already grow marijuana in the US.

Yeah... I knew that for some reason. Now I know why everyone is always so happy after walking through our state parks.

**naut** · 06-08-2011, 13:44

Originally Posted by Chuchip

Interestingly enough the Mexican cartels already grow marijuana in the US.

45% of cannabis the US consumes is grown in the US. The rest largely comes of Canada, very little comes from Mexico, as little as 11%.

The Cartels thrive on cocaine and heroin. That is where the money is. There is no serious money in dealing cannabis, when compared to the hard stuff or prescription drugs.