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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Actually, given that Paul Revere was a coward and a military incompetent, I think it's kind of telling if someone chooses to reference him as an example of patriotism. Kinda demonstrates they don't have the foggiest notion of what they're talking about. To then compound that by getting the (false) legend wrong, well, that's extra credit.
    Wikipedia says he was exonerated of cowardly actions at that battle. You might be going a bit harsh on him.

    On the other hand, not harsh enough on Palin. Politicians should be shamed for their ignorance. Pity that the press only really wants to do it to Republicans, and that all this press around Palin detracts from much, much better candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Wikipedia says he was exonerated of cowardly actions at that battle. You might be going a bit harsh on him.
    It's possible, but you don't get convicted of disobedience and cowardice out of nowhere. Yes, the Reveres had real money as silversmiths, and no doubt plenty of pull, but I've read a good bit about the Penobscot Expedition, and my semi-educated opinion is that Revere should have been hung rather than dismissed from service. Using his personal barge to rescue his luggage rather than soldiers was a classy move, as was his refusal do deploy artillery as ordered. Disgraceful.

    In the end the whole fiasco was hung on Commodore Saltonstall, but only because there was so much blame to go around. Better to put it all on one hateful man than admit the entire chain of command was incompetent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    In the end the whole fiasco was hung on Commodore Saltonstall, but only because there was so much blame to go around. Better to put it all on one hateful man than admit the entire chain of command was incompetent.
    Indeed. Well said, and may I add that personally I have always been of the same conviction. Everybody was incompetent and that's why general Paul Reverend lost the war for States Rights from the North.


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    It's possible, but you don't get convicted of disobedience and cowardice out of nowhere. Yes, the Reveres had real money as silversmiths, and no doubt plenty of pull, but I've read a good bit about the Penobscot Expedition, and my semi-educated opinion is that Revere should have been hung rather than dismissed from service. Using his personal barge to rescue his luggage rather than soldiers was a classy move, as was his refusal do deploy artillery as ordered. Disgraceful.

    In the end the whole fiasco was hung on Commodore Saltonstall, but only because there was so much blame to go around. Better to put it all on one hateful man than admit the entire chain of command was incompetent.
    Fair enough. Consider my respect for Revere destroyed.

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    I see Conservapedia has been altered to fit the new reality.

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    the wingnuts are trying to edit wikipedia also....

    lights are on but nobody home revisionism
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    So I guess Sarah Palin is once again proving that it's the coverup that does the most damage, not the blunder.

    Arghhhhh.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Wikipedia says he was exonerated of cowardly actions at that battle. You might be going a bit harsh on him.


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    Revere was acquitted of the charges, not really exonerated.

    He did have friends and this would have been a great embarrassment to them.

    However, he was never reinstated to any military post. That should tell you something.

    I don’t think he was necessarily a coward. I think he was just so self absorbed and worried about his personnel comfort that he didn’t care what happened.

    So far as I can see, the only thing he did of worth was to identify the body of Dr. Warren.

    But I am with Lemur on this one. I would have hung the


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    Pity that the press only really wants to do it to Republicans,
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    Examples please?


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    I have read the minds of the press and know their desires.

    Also, press=mainstream media, not Fox, which wants a Trump/Bachmann ticket.

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    I have read the minds of the press and know their desires.
    Daaaaaang. Someone is taking their multivitamins.


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