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    Default Teacher Punches Student, Teacher Wins Criminal Case, There Was Much Rejoicing

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1173240.ece

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    This kid should be taken out back and beaten with a rubber hose
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    My mother is afraid she is going to smack one of her students. She is a fiery little lady so I wouldn't be surprised. Hell, I wouldn't be incensed either the things they call my mother....... and these are seventh graders. What the article cites the boy as saying is included. I mean I wanna go smack them around for her. She found a carving on the wall in a blind spot saying Mrs. Centurion is a dyk bich. Thats what we are dealing with gentlemen little turds who can't even spell their insults...... Dammit when I was little I remember the first words we learned how to properly spell were the bad ones they are the only thing children use the damn dictionary for.

    Also I blame parents and the administration letting parents do what they want so they dont take flak. Thats why the teachers union despite its liberal agenda and my usually universal hatred for unions get some support from me because of how I see my mother is treated. And the administration would screw her over even more but the Union does still fight for them a little.

    As a result I blame not the teachers for our dumb out of control new generations but the failure of educational administration and parents. Especially parents.

    Edit: Also my mother teaches honors math.......... I kid you not. Honors.
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    I have to agree. A student who thinks he can get into a teacher's face while yelling vulgarity deserves worse.

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    One thing I do not stand for as a parent is disrespect from a child/minor. I know spanking is frowned upon these days, but I frown a lot when I think about our society. So I think we're even.

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    Usually Kids who respect and fear their parents respect and fear their teachers and other people in authority. Otherwise good luck. I for one would and have never disrespected a teacher or anybody in public. Hell, I curse like a sailor but that doesn't mean thats how I talk to a teacher no matter my dislike for them.

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    fear?

    No fear is not the intended effect
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Fear is good. Fear leads to respect. No one is asking you to love your teacher. You should fear the repercussions if you misbehave. This leads to maturity and respect for the position so that you no longer wish to misbehave anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    I have to agree. A student who thinks he can get into a teacher's face while yelling vulgarity deserves worse.

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    Hah!

    In breach of internet anonymity, I'll share my workplace with you: I work at Åssiden Barneskole(baneskole means elementary school). Åssiden is a part of the city of Drammen, and the second lowest income area after Fjell. The ethnic make-up of my class is 40-60 immigrant-ethnic norweegian, for the entire school it's roughly 50-50 I believe. If you draw a line from the Balkans to India you will catch most of their countries of origins, with a couple of africans and a vietnamese thrown in to spice it up. While there isn't as many "red students"(code-name for students with something "going on", ranging from a messy divorce or drunk parent to much worse) as at the grade below, there are still plenty of them who currently needs extra attention in that area, or who have been in that situation before. There are also many students with extra learning needs(like little math knowledge or still learning the language). It's quite rare that I have a full class, it's mostly 60-80%, but it's not uncommon for half of my students to be taken away by the special educations teacher.

    That's my reality. Please, if you wish to make a serious argument, try to avoid making ridiculous, laughable and untrue assumptions about other people.
    Which makes it sound quite a bit like the "good" public school in my area. Your simply lying if you don't have discipline problems. To add to that you teach what was it you said? 3rd graders. The poor behavior can begin then but its never going to be as bad as a junior high schooler or secondary student. Also your a man (i hope ) as compared to the 65 year old woman in the case. Has one of your third graders ever backed you against a wall and called you vulgar names?

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    Default Re: Teacher Punches Student, Teacher Wins Criminal Case, There Was Much Rejoicing

    I currently teach the seventh grade, meaning 12/13-year olds and about to make the switch from elementary to middle school, which generally makes them rather rowdy. I've also worked at all three grades in middle school(meaning from 13 to 16 year olds).

    Of course "vulgar name calling" has occured where I have worked(though not at me). But escalating a situation that's gotten out of hand is never the answer. First thing you learn is that student behaviour is always a mirror of your own behaviour. Keeping cool is critical. And since when has working out situations when tempers are flaring ever worked...?

    As for general disipline at the school, it is incredibly good, which I attribute to the schools method of handling and preventing breaches. And no, punching kids aint one of the methods. And that's not just my personal feeling, my professor was "surprised at how disiplined they were" when he visited. And that, I might add, was during a class which I personally felt they were getting way out of hand...
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    Default Re: Teacher Punches Student, Teacher Wins Criminal Case, There Was Much Rejoicing

    ah you had me confused. Elementary school ends at the fifth grade here.

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    I strongly suspect junior "suffers" from a "parenting problem". Respect for others, especially "authority figures" is learned at home. I'd be curious to know how junior's parents reacted to this incident.
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