Mafia X [Concluded]

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Total humiliation!


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Congrats to CrazedRabbit & Kagemusha

edit: Damn, so it actually was not random selection. Thought it was just a coincidence that both of CR & Kage were still alive after N8. lol

[Earthling]

Hmm, earlier when I thought the scum were someone else I was going to remember to ask if the roles had been randomized but hadn't thought of it right at the end here, thanks for sharing I guess. That's still extremely disappointing in my opinion. Granted it's not just this game, there have been several others in short succession, but I'm enormously sick of that lately. Roles should be randomized and it detracts from the experience for everyone if not. It's been really lopsided and unsporting in all the recent games where invariably only the town gets a bunch of inactive or inexperienced players when the "good roles" are handpicked out for others. On top of that, then, with the town already at a disadvantage from the start, the mafia can purposefully kill off all the active townies as of course they have the kills to do it, leaving even fewer active people left.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I respect your opinion, and please know that in all of the 17+ games I've hosted here over the years, I have never once purposely assigned roles to anybody before this game, and never will again. This was a special occasion, as mentioned above. It's the 5-year anniversary of something I thought would die after a game or two, I'm allowed to be a bit indulgent.

[Earthling]

There was nothing wrong at all with the anonymous accounts though. I said that before when some people thought it had been an issue and I'll stress that again, it really worked very well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Quicktopic?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Don't think there was one. I was included in some of the PMs, especially closer to the endgame, but that was it.

[Kagemusha]

No there was no QT. We used pm and steam in our communications with CR.If you have any questions concerning anything.Il do my best to answer those.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Our kill strategy was very simple; for almost the whole game, until he killed Giorgio, Kage killed people randomly. For my first several kills I killed whoever voted last before the day round ended. Watching townies try to make sense of random killings was fun. No one caught on to my plan, though.

We didn't really have a set strategy on how to work together, no plans on how to vote and steer conversation besides the very general "Don't let either of us get lynched".

Our first steam chat, the night we decide to kill Sonny and Richie (I had changed my steam name to Wild Tennessee, worrying that people might get suspicious if they saw CR and Kage talking. Later I realized they probably couldn't and changing my name might have been a bigger signal) . To think we were worried that I would get heat for whacking my two biggest opponents!

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Kage: Good morning :)
Mild Tennessee: And good evening to you :)
Kage: damn one should have a vacation adapting back from vacation :P I feel like a zombie after 3 hours of sleep
Mild Tennessee: we had a nice three day weekend in the states because of the fourth of july
Kage: yep, happy late independency day. My summer vacation ended on monday and i have bit hard time getting back to my normal schedule, it hard to get up at 5:30 am when you get down at 2 am. I guess we arent getting any younger
Mild Tennessee: nope, that aint much sleep
Kage: so you arent sure about Richie?
Kage: Whom are you thinking in his place?
Mild Tennessee: I'm wary, but it's probably the best way forward
Mild Tennessee: Truth be told, I'm most worried about Sonny. He's going to be confirmed innocent and want me dead, dead, dead.
Kage: I think you are going to get tons of heat in any case. The best we can do is to get rid of the actual voters and then have some other options
Mild Tennessee: That's probably right
Kage: Leaving Sonny /renata alive to become a rallying point might turn out to be disastrous. We only need to win the next round and we have pulled this off twice ;)
Kage: with the voting history of the others.I am quite sure that the votes will be spread and if the mafia votes are the only coordinated votes, while people go after their own targets.I thiink it is the best chance we have
Mild Tennessee: I agree. Let's kill Richie and Sonny.
Kage: Ok :)
Kage: Il go make some coffee and think of how to kill my target. Do yuo want to waste Sonny as he is your nemesis? :P
Mild Tennessee: Might as well :D
Kage: why not while we are at it ;)
Crazed Rabbit: awesome
Kage: Let us just hope this will play out, thank God we have white_eyes and Earthling in the crowd disagreeing about anything pizza will say
Crazed Rabbit: heehee they're great
Kage: Im just worried what pizza might cook, we are too close, but a good thing is that we are very hard to trace to each other. Im my prediction goes right.You will have to defend yourself like the last day phase and i go completely unnoticed. It would be fun to show people that lurkers are really something to take in count in these games, its totally different how i usually have played
Crazed Rabbit: Last day round I waited and hoped the heat would turn up on somebody else. This time I'm going to come out and at Angelo early on.
Kage: strange steam went offline there for a bit
Crazed Rabbit: I'll just repeat this then;
Crazed Rabbit: Last day round I waited and hoped the heat would turn up on somebody else. This time I'm going to come out and at Angelo early on.
Kage: I think thats a solid strategy
Kage: Il send a pm to GH now.I have to get out and leave for work in about 20
Crazed Rabbit: Ok, have a good day at work. I'll go to sleep in ~2 hours and check back in real quick in about 11 hours.
Kage: Ok, remember to send your kill ;)
Kage: ok we cant screw it up anymore. Mosquitos are going to take care of Richie
Kage: Have a good night.Im sure we have a quite interesting day phase coming our way! :)

The second time we chatted on steam, as the clock ticked down and we won the game with the lynch of Bertha. I cut out boring bits with me complaining about being sick and my injured-from-soccer-ankle. GH turns up at the end too!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Kage: hi :)
Crazed Rabbit: hey
Crazed Rabbit: so i htink we're good for today :D
Kage: how much until its deadline?
Crazed Rabbit: 36 minutes
Kage: :)
Crazed Rabbit: man, killing sonny and richie worked excellently
Kage: cant believe that we are pulling this through like this :)
Kage: so far we are the only two ever won a GH game and now we are doing it twice :P
Kage: I have grand total of 1 votes in this game :P
Crazed Rabbit: *if* we get thorugh this round we'll be the first ever to make it through to the end with both mafia alive
Kage: yep, we are basically setting all the records a new
Kage: Im thinking should i even vote :P
Crazed Rabbit: just to avoid the WoG :D
Kage: I guess il do that in lets say 15 minutes :P
Kage: the random killing got them completely,+ you played amazing the last round.With the last well thought kills, we are not even being considered suspects :)
Kage: I guess il just have to start believeing that we are pulling this off
Crazed Rabbit: i was really worried last day round when I saw three votes already on me. Thought I was dead.
Kage: You defended yourself in style
Kage: if you convince pizza like that, it cant be a bad play ;)
Crazed Rabbit: heeheehee
Crazed Rabbit: indeed
Kage: Its amazing how he sayd that your tactics are most townie like and in the same posts he says that my strategy would be perfect for mafia, still he thinks im completely harmless :P
Kage: I know many wont like my strategy, but after this they should think again about lurkers :P
Kage: most mafia are so enthusiastic that they just cant keep their mouths shut
Crazed Rabbit: yup
Kage: ok, im going to vote for Bertha also. Lets see if i get praise from that or another post saying bloody lurker :p
Kage: i guess everyone else is voting bertha except her :P
Kage: that wagon will not be turned in 30 minutes
Crazed Rabbit: no way
Kage: so it is 20 minutes now?
Crazed Rabbit: yup
Kage: Pizza will be furious when he will read the thread :P
Kage: i left a tip in that post :P
Kage: before this game we chatted on MSN and he told me that he would easily regognice me because i tend to write lot of typos in english
Kage: look at my post :P
Crazed Rabbit: ah, i see
Crazed Rabbit: very nice
Kage: so far ive written perfect english, couldnt resist one typo on purpose for our dear ATPG :P
Kage: I think that will create some drama for "next day phase" ;)
Kage: While in reality they have already lost in 17 minutes
Kage: I just hope ATPG will pick that typo up and start drumming for my lynch after the coming night
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Kage: About the game.Its bloody 7 minutes :P
Kage: Then we have just walked away with this!
Crazed Rabbit: when the game began I was tempted to post, as Crazed Rabbit, that I was mafia
Kage: that would have been a tricky move
Kage: but would have altered the nature of the game a lot
Kage: it would have been all about trying to find who CR is
Kage: 4 MINUTES
Kage: Im going to ahve a smoke.I cant wait
Kage: 1 MINUTE
Crazed Rabbit: sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Crazed Rabbit: we have done it
Kage: !!!!!!
Kage: Damn!
Crazed Rabbit: We are un unstoppable mafia team
Crazed Rabbit: un=an*
Kage: God i just cant believe it! Congrats CR i could not think a better guy to tema up to butcher the town! :)
Kage: cant
Kage: no others not even once, but we twice, with total mafia victory both mafia alive!
Crazed Rabbit: Congrats Kagemusha! a truly excellent choice in kills
Kage: Yeeeshh!
Kage: Ok, now we have to start thinking of good stuff for the coming night
Crazed Rabbit: for my kill, it's going to be rabbits
Crazed Rabbit: hordes and hordes of rabbits
Crazed Rabbit: rabbits on buildings
Crazed Rabbit: rabbits in cars
Crazed Rabbit: rabbits in the grass, behind the bushes, in the trees
Crazed Rabbit: all looking, watching
Crazed Rabbit: waiting
Crazed Rabbit: killing
Kage: Im going to be an lumberjack talking about Beirut to my target. I will only reveal myself as Kage at the end of the last "day"
Kage: ive killed with trees, organic food, ants, mosquitos and no one has even mentioned Beirut :P
Crazed Rabbit: so are we going to have day lynch phase after this?
Kage: Yes i think so, GH asked us a bit a go, if we would like to drag things up
Kage: as the town cant know that two mafia are alive
Kage: so normally we would just have one more day after this night
Crazed Rabbit: i was wondering if he meant, drag things out thourgh the night phase
Crazed Rabbit: ah okay
Crazed Rabbit: another day phase sounds fun
Crazed Rabbit: who to leave alive?
Kage: to me too also
Kage: what you think?
Crazed Rabbit: we should toy with someone
Crazed Rabbit: who would be the most fun?
Kage: I think the best drama would come up if we would leave Angelo and Bruno alive
Kage: sorry
Kage: only one
Crazed Rabbit: yeah :(
Kage: so maybe angelo, he really has put some effort into this
Crazed Rabbit: i think that's a good choice as well
Kage: Can i kill Bruno?
Crazed Rabbit: sure
Kage: You got Renata/ Vinnie last night :P
Crazed Rabbit: that leaves me luigi
Kage: Think something very good, maybe you ought to fool them once more also and not yet use rabbits :P
Crazed Rabbit: hmm
Kage: I think we can have rabbits and katana´s in the final execution :P
Crazed Rabbit: save the rabbits for the grand finale?
Kage: yup ;)
Crazed Rabbit: maybe rabbits WITH katanas
Kage: Maybe :P
Kage: im going to be a lumberjack serial killer guy who admires Beirut over everything and complains to his victim about Jujubee and his too soft meausres as chief of police :P
Kage: measures
Crazed Rabbit: okay, with luigi I'm going to do another kill that destroy's JuJu's Judy Garland shrine
Kage: lol
Kage: damn we really won. It was my first mafia game ever when i won this the first time, what an anniversary :p
Kage: Its bit hard to believe still, i also talked with GH and it seems we are the only two that have played in all of these
Crazed Rabbit: wow
Crazed Rabbit: i did not know that
Kage: i didnt either :P
Kage: its like a faith, or is it fate?
Kage: i always get mixed up with those two words
Kage: destiny might be a better word
Crazed Rabbit: fate is what you mean probably
Crazed Rabbit: fate means something like destiny - ie I was fated to be doing such and such
Crazed Rabbit: faith is belief, like religion
Kage: yep, thats it
Kage: I was surprised yesterday when i talked with GH, he has already apparently wrote over 1000 words of commentary, when i was feeling it sorry because i played so low key
Crazed Rabbit: argh i wish GH would get here and post in the thread that the voting is over
Kage: me too
Kage: If you look how calm the gameroom and the thread is, it seems the town doesnt have a vaguest idea that this game is over :P
Kage: They just think this wasa lul round after Pizza got lynched
Kage: GH is online
Your chat with Kage is now a multi-user chat.
GeneralHankerchief entered chat.
Kage: Hi GH!!!!:)
Crazed Rabbit: hi
GeneralHankerchief: morning everybody
Kage: so when are we going to read the magic words?
GeneralHankerchief: as soon as I read the thread and catch up with it
GeneralHankerchief: should be a couple of minutes
Kage: ok
GeneralHankerchief: okay good Kage, you voted
GeneralHankerchief: otherwise you would have been WOG-eligible for next round and there would have been a miniscule chance that the town still could have won
Kage: :P
GeneralHankerchief: and congrats gentlemen.
Kage: :)
Crazed Rabbit: :D
Kage: thank you very much!
Crazed Rabbit: Thanks GH
Crazed Rabbit: ten games of mafia
Kage: thanks for each and every of those
Kage: GH concerning the next day , i left a typo for pizza to see in that last post of mine, so we might get some action :P
GeneralHankerchief: heh
Kage: before the game we talked on MSN and pizza sayd that he would spot me from my typo´s, lets see now if he picks it up ;)
GeneralHankerchief: so I'm assuming you want to drag it out?
Kage: But ofcourse
Kage: We already talked with CR whom to kill the coming night and who will live for the last round
Kage: Unless you want to just end the game?
GeneralHankerchief: I'm trying to figure out the exact numbers
GeneralHankerchief: 6 left now, 5 with bertha's lynch, 3 with the two kills tomorrow, you two after the lynch
Kage: basically we have won, but the town cant know it. the end could come to next days execution scene :P
GeneralHankerchief: there won't be any townies for you to kill come the final night 12, but as it is a total mafia victory you have earned the right to take out the chief of police himself on night 12, so we could do it that way I suppose
Kage: or at the end of the day, if there were only one mafia left, the town would have one last change the next day
Kage: no else knows that after this night there will be 2 mafia and 1 town, i guess they think it will be 2 town and 1 mafia
GeneralHankerchief: yeah
Kage: so if pizza will pick up that glue, they could hope i am the last mafia ;)
GeneralHankerchief: also, I have to ask:
GeneralHankerchief: katana kills for this upcoming round or your coup de grace against the chief of police?
Kage: We talked with CR and we would like to leave the katanas and the rabbits to the end :P
Crazed Rabbit: maybe at the end of tomorrow's lynch phase
Kage: yep
GeneralHankerchief: fair enough
Crazed Rabbit: so instead of this night and the next night, we end it all after tomorow's day phase
GeneralHankerchief: alright, I think I can swing it that way
GeneralHankerchief: I usually finish things off after one last night phase
GeneralHankerchief: but I've written too damn much for this game alredy anyway :P
Kage: i thought that this coming night.I will be a lumberjack serial killer guy who adores Beirut and complains about JuJuBee and his too soft meaures as chief of police :P
Kage: I would kill Bruno
GeneralHankerchief: alright, PM me your choices though
Kage: CR also has his thing thought up
GeneralHankerchief: have to make it "official"
Kage: ok ;)
Kage: sent you the kill

CR

[Kagemusha]

Thanks for posting those chat logs, CR. To be honest, before the round when the heat started piling on CR.We did not have any need to over do anything and leave traces of cooperation in the thread.