Crusader Kings [Concluded]

**Diamondeye** · 06-14-2011, 11:30

I have already spoken on that topic, in great length no less. It is a better solution than openly competing to win the county, but if it could be settled peacefully between the Dukes, I would rather that. God's reign is in Heaven, and Man's is on earth, and I would not burden the Church unnecesarily with a piece of land that seems to bring more trouble and envy than blessings with it.

**Skullheadhq** · 06-14-2011, 13:35

Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I have already spoken on that topic, in great length no less. It is a better solution than openly competing to win the county, but if it could be settled peacefully between the Dukes, I would rather that. God's reign is in Heaven, and Man's is on earth, and I would not burden the Church unnecesarily with a piece of land that seems to bring more trouble and envy than blessings with it.

Excuse me, my liege, but the Donatio Constantini states that all of the West belongs to the pope and the bishop is above worldly rulers. And we wouldn't want problems with the church, now do we?

**TheLastDays** · 06-14-2011, 14:39

I don't think envy will be the problem. No man with any love of God, even less a nobleman would dare to openly ride to war against the church, therefore I think under the rulership of the church the people of Mide have the best hope for peace.

**Kagemusha** · 06-14-2011, 16:51

Duke of Connaught speaks:

"It warms my heart that we seem to be arriving into almost single minded decision over this matter. I thank you Munster vassals for noticing merit in my earlier suggestion of giving Mide to the strongest knight among us, but unfortunately like it was discussed two days a go. That cant be done. Still if it wont be the strongest martially of us to protect the Mide. Then so it should be the strongest in Lord.

Thus i will make it clear that Connaught will support adding Mide to the Church holdings and our Good Bishop should rule it as ecclestial County. In order to further help the Church. Connaught will give 30 gold from our funds, so a house of Lord can be erected at Mide.

I urge every Lord here to swear to protect Mide from anyone who might try to wrestle the County away from Church. Leinster. You said earlier that if your proposal will not gain support.You will support this one as second best. Now that others have supported for Mide to go the Church, will you do so also?"

**Skooma Addict** · 06-14-2011, 19:46

Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

Excuse me, my liege, but the Donatio Constantini states that all of the West belongs to the pope and the bishop is above worldly rulers. And we wouldn't want problems with the church, now do we?

*Gives a disapproving scowl*

Someone needs to mind their tone.

**Skullheadhq** · 06-14-2011, 19:50

Originally Posted by Skooma Addict

*Gives a disapproving scowl*

Someone needs to mind their tone.

Interesting, duke of what?

**Skooma Addict** · 06-14-2011, 19:55

*Folds his arms, looks towards the ground and gives a light chuckle*

**Kagemusha** · 06-14-2011, 20:12

Gentlemen! The hour is late and still no answer from Leinster! Should we think that we cant reach an concensus in this issue or can we?

**Diamondeye** · 06-14-2011, 20:45

Leinster will be content with the rule of the Church in Mide if that is how things end up. I have exchanged letters with Cardinal Jolt and I am currently awaiting his reply which might clarify my and his position on this issue. Until then I cannot provide a more enlightening answer.