OOC Thread

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is the OOC Thread for Kings of the Nile. This thread is designed to be a simple chatroom for KotN players. This thread does not count as a "public thread" for the purposes of the KotN rules. No information posted in this thread will be considered as binding on the Officials. In short, this thread has no official relationship to KotN in any capacity. It is simply a chatroom.

Also, I want to remind you to follow Org Rules and to be kind and helpful to your fellow players.

[johnhughthom]

When do you think we'll be under way I-K?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'm waiting a message from someone. If I receive it then I can set up the Royal Council and the Agoraa threads. Those will be main IC threads. Once they are up I can open the First Council Session and we can properly start the game.
However, you can already write stories about your characters. If those people who took FM's want to know what I did with their characters from 272 to 269 then PM me.

[Myth]

I've set the game modding files up on my PC and I'm waiting. I'll read everything as we go. So what's the best way to make money early on? Beat on enemies? BTW why isn't the campaign VH?

[johnhughthom]

A lot of people don't like EB VH, it gives the AI very large cash bonuses every turn. I play on Hard myself.

[LeoCordis]

Looking good. I think I'll write an origins story for my character, though at only 17 and his only real vice being that he is a little lazy it'll be hard to develop a character for him until we start playing.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I've set the game modding files up on my PC and I'm waiting. I'll read everything as we go. So what's the best way to make money early on? Beat on enemies? BTW why isn't the campaign VH?

VH would make running a game like this a bit difficult.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Btw, I have to ask this but do all of you have these requirements fulfilled?

Europa Barbarorum v1.2 + 1.2 fixes + Force Diplomacy + PBM mod

[GenosseGeneral]

So, a question: In the signu-up thread have been posted some rules for 'private finances' and ways to spend them. I also read somewhere something about private units, but they are not listed as way of spending. Am I then right, if I assume that private money has nothing to do with in-game money (the M'nai spent on buildings, troops and diplomacy)?

Edit: What is PBM mod?
[PBM is Play by mail I guess, but where to download it and what does it change?]

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The difference is that Edict lasts only 12 turns(one full Chancellor term) while the Law last longer. If not changed then it could last until the end of the game.

Will edit the rules then.

[GenosseGeneral]

So an army/nomarchy created by an edict will only exist for 12 turns?

[Skullheadhq]

So an army/nomarchy created by an edict will only exist for 12 turns?

I don't know, changing nomarchies every 12 turns seems a bit of an overkill. What about the nomarchies stay as they are until a new edict stating otherwise will be accepted?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And that's why we have 'Laws'.

[Skullheadhq]

And that's why we have 'Laws'.

Already filed in 2 edicts, so someone else will have to propose it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Damn, then get rid of them! I am the one losing mnai in here!

[johnhughthom]

Did you change the values in decsr_strat.txt for the frequency of rebel armies popping up I-K?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Did you change the values in decsr_strat.txt for the frequency of rebel armies popping up I-K?

Unfortunatelly, no.

[GenosseGeneral]

I am sorry for not being active for such a long time, but I think I can participate now again. Am I still in it?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, you are! Your avatar is still in Alexandreia. Also, he have become very rich as you may notice in the Treasury thread.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I apologize but I can't calculate the private incomes now. I hope Ash doesn't mind extending this turn as long as I come back from work tomorrow(that would be 16 hours from now).

[Myth]

When you do that, can you also move my two units of cav back into Alexandreia and que the retraining after TCVs unit gets trained?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

of course

[Paul D]

Hello, I came across this, it looks pretty interesting.

I would join, but I am not quite clear on the situations of the campaign, or how to really play this.

Additionally, what are the rules for hiring mercenaries as your character/(sub-faction?)'s retinue? Is it allowed?
I have read the FAQ. Good, it is!

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, you can download the save and just look at it all you want, even if you're not playing yet. Short version: Seleukids have been beaten back to where Antiocheia is under siege by yours truly. Another Council meeting is imminent to decide the future.

As to how you play this, someone will sponsor you, meaning that they will pay for the recruitment of your avatar, i.e. the general that you will be playing as. This means that you will be his client and he your patron until you can pay him the cost of raising your avatar. (See the rules for explanation of the patronage system.) When you have your avatar, you can download the save, move him about, and then make a new save that you upload once you're done with it. There's an (*coughs*) excellent explanation of this in the FAQ already.

As for mercenaries, as long as your private funds are large enough, you can always hire mercenaries.

[Paul D]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd only about half-read the FAQ when I made that post.

Also, how centralized are things? How Involved do I have to be in the state of affairs of the kingdom as a whole? Will I need to provide feudalism-style levies or bands of armed men for the kingdom at times?

What is the starting private bank for establishing trade ships or estates?

Another set of questions:

1.Can we send our character out on mercenary pick-em-up missions around the Mediterranean, or are we confined to the immediate sphere of influence of the Ptolemaic faction?

2.Also, if I chose to, could I use personal finances to fund building projects in a province that currently does not have any, or do I have to go through central government channels to do this?

3. Is there a possibility to open up more regions to allowing estates (If but for RP, as it seems the current available plots of land are more than adequate)?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd only about half-read the FAQ when I made that post.

Also, how centralized are things? How Involved do I have to be in the state of affairs of the kingdom as a whole? Will I need to provide feudalism-style levies or bands of armed men for the kingdom at times?

What is the starting private bank for establishing trade ships or estates?

Another set of questions:

1.Can we send our character out on mercenary pick-em-up missions around the Mediterranean, or are we confined to the immediate sphere of influence of the Ptolemaic faction?

2.Also, if I chose to, could I use personal finances to fund building projects in a province that currently does not have any, or do I have to go through central government channels to do this?

3. Is there a possibility to open up more regions to allowing estates (If but for RP, as it seems the current available plots of land are more than adequate)?

No, you don't have to provide levies or units.

1. What TCV said.

2. Look TCV's post.

3. I'm not so sure. It will mean that who ever becomes the Treasurer have more work to do. Also, you can always start a Player-vs-Player war and take someone elses estate from him.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, this is embarrassing. A friend, whom I haven't seen for almost 6 years, was in the town and I forgot to take the save. I apologize. Edit: Paul D, I'll answer you questions when I'm back home(currently at work).

[The Celtic Viking]

I hope I can to act as a placefiller for the moment, then:

1. Technically, you can do that. However, to do so you either have to march around the whole way, or hire a fleet from your own finances, which is very expensive. (You can only teleport your avatar, so if you'd try that you'd leave the mercenaries behind.) Either way, unless you've saved up money for a long time, you're not likely able to afford it, and it's hardly worth it anyway.

2. You can, but you need the permission from the guy who owns the province first.

3. Currently, no, but I think it's an interesting idea, seeing as we're limited to one estate nowadays.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Well, this is embarrassing. A friend, whom I haven't seen for almost 6 years, was in the town and I forgot to take the save. I apologize. Edit: Paul D, I'll answer you questions when I'm back home(currently at work).

I find myself having to re-install the whole game because of problems I'm having with mine anyways

[johnhughthom]