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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

    Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

    Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.
    Oh, Memphis then. No cargo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

    Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

    Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.
    Will do that now!

    Kydrogenes' estate will be built in Memphis then.

    Construction list:
    Alexandros Thraikikos: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Bothos Lapedou Kypriakou: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Ankhwennefer Philometor: Estate near Alexandreia + Akontistai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Meleagros Ptolemaios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Satyrion Limyraios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Philadelphos Ptolemaios: 10 cargo ships = 5000 mnai Trade route: Alexandreia-Salamis
    Leontiskos Thraikikos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Zoarchos Helios: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Isigonos Kleopatrites: 6 cargo ships = 3000 mnai Trade Route: Alexandreia-Diospolis Megale
    Kydrogenes Epiphanes: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Timon Arrhidaeos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 06-15-2011 at 05:23.

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    Since I clearly can't afford to pay for the Triereis myself, I would like to build an estate in Memphis, north west of the port on the road please, with a unit of toxotai.

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    In that case I'd take the route from Alexandria to side.

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    At the moment there are just two available trade routes from Alexandreia.
    They are:
    Alexandreia - Diospolis Megale
    Alexandreia - Tarsos


    There are also the following trade routes available:
    Memphis - Hierosolyma
    Memphis - Salamis
    Diospolis Megale - Alexandreia
    Diospolis Megale - Hierosolyma
    Hierosolyma - Memphis
    Hierosolyma - Diospolis Megale
    Hierosolyma - Tarsos
    Salamis - Alexandreia
    Salamis - Memphis
    Salamis - Tarsos
    Salamis - Rhodos


    I wouldn't choose trade route with Tarsos since it is besieged by the enemy.

    OOC: I suggest you to open the save and check the settlement details if you want to know what trade routes are available.
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 06-14-2011 at 09:56.

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    In that case I'd take the route from Alexandreia to Diospolis Megale.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun View Post
    At the moment there are just two available trade routes from Alexandreia.
    They are:
    Alexandreia - Diospolis Megale
    Alexandreia - Tarsos


    There are also the following trade routes available:
    Memphis - Hierosolyma
    Memphis - Salamis
    Diospolis Megale - Alexandreia
    Diospolis Megale - Hierosolyma
    Hierosolyma - Memphis
    Hierosolyma - Diospolis Megale
    Hierosolyma - Tarsos
    Salamis - Alexandreia
    Salamis - Memphis
    Salamis - Tarsos
    Salamis - Rhodos


    I wouldn't choose trade route with Tarsos since it is besieged by the enemy.

    OOC: I suggest you to open the save and check the settlement details if you want to know what trade routes are available.

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    I, Timon Arrhidaeos, wish to purchase an estate on the fertile banks of the Nile in the province of Heptanomis.
    Preferably in the following location, but if this land has been sold already, any other land on the Nile will do.



    It is to be supervised by a division of Toxotai.

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    Estates:

    1. Alexandros Thraikikos
    2. Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou
    3. Ankwennefer Philometor
    4. Meleagros Ptolemaios
    5. Satyrion Limyraios
    6. Leontiskos Thraikikos
    7. Kydrogenes Epiphanes
    8. Zoarchos Helios
    9. Timos Arrhidaeos

    The income and spendings.

    * Last turn is the starting money.
    ** The recruitment cost of the Trireis is not deducted yet.
    *** johnhughthom have 1487 in treasury. I subtracted 1500 mnai(first payment of the fleet) from his treasury.
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 06-16-2011 at 09:58.

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    OOC: Do we get any private funds from looting after conquering a city?

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    OOC: Yes, it's mentioned in the first post.

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    OOC: Doh, how'd I miss that?

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    Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.

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    Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.
    Can't do that. Law E1.2 prevents it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Folgore View Post
    OOC: Is there a limit to the amount of estates that can be owned and is there a limit to the amount of estates per province? It was stated earlier that no more estates could be built in the Nile delta. Did that apply to only this season, or is there a 5 estate per province limit? If so, how can I now expand my personal economics? I cannot build trade ships, for I already have an estate and I cannot build another estate, because I can have only 1 per province and the only other province with a type 1 government is full already.
    OOC: Yes, there is 5 estate per province limit and you can build estates only in Type1 province. However, there are 2 of them(type1 provinces that is)

    Quote Originally Posted by strategos roma View Post
    Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!
    Will do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun View Post
    Can't do that. Law E1.2 prevents it.
    We are talking a small sum here, I will pay the difference for the Basileus this turn to enable him to concentrate on his trading ships.

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    @TCV - True, did not think about it that way. So, in that case you can have your cargo ships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoCordis View Post
    OOC: Thanks TVC. This is all a little confusing. :S
    Yeah, I know. We'll all get used to it, though.

    @I-K: Thank you.

    @johnhughthom: thank you too, though as it turns out, you needn't do so. Your offer (however small it may be ) will not be forgotten.

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    Treasurer report - Autumn, 269


    * TCV have maximum number of ships now(15 out of 15).
    ** strategos roma have 8 ships.
    *** I suggest for strategos roma to change his trade route in Spring. Salamis-Sidon trade route brings in 259 mnai per season.
    **** If TCV wonders why his expenses are so high then he should remember that the upkeep from15 ships is 750 mnai.

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    I would like to make a second estate in Memphis or any other region that has a farm rate greater than 1. And also pay whatever is due for the fleet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    I would like to make a second estate in Memphis or any other region that has a farm rate greater than 1. And also pay whatever is due for the fleet.
    This, with Toxotai supervisors.
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    @ Ibn-Khaldun

    Thx for the advice! I'll change the route in this case then at the beginning of the next turn.

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    Treasurer Report - Winter, 269



    * This is the last turn when people have to pay the recruitment cost of the Trireis.
    ** Added 182 mnai to john's income since I accidentally deducted it from his Treasury. The Law E1.2 say: "To this end, Leontiskos Thraikikos will initially pay 1500 mnai for the construction, while the remaining cost of 4000 mnai should be shared equally among the rest of the Council."
    *** The richest person is TCV!

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    Now that a navy has been raised to deal with the thread of the Seleucid ships pirating near Kypros, I wish to invest 5000 mnai into 10 tradeships, sailing from Hierosolyma to Memphis. My estate, I will sell, or abandon if there are no parties interested in its purchase. The unit of Toxotai supervising my estate shall be disbanded.

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    By my calculations, that's 2500 income and 500 ship upkeep:
    Last edited by Folgore; 06-21-2011 at 19:16.

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    I, Basileus Philadelphos, re-sign my trading contract between Alexandreia and Salamis.

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    I would like to recruit three Machimoi Phalangitai and a Thureophoroi from the Delta Neilou. I assume these will be available to move this turn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoCordis View Post
    I would like to recruit three Machimoi Phalangitai and a Thureophoroi from the Delta Neilou. I assume these will be available to move this turn?
    You can recruit only one unit of Machimoi thus season. The other phalangitai units will be recruited during the next 2 seasons. Perhaps you want to recruit mercenary Thureophoroi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun View Post
    You can recruit only one unit of Machimoi thus season. The other phalangitai units will be recruited during the next 2 seasons. Perhaps you want to recruit mercenary Thureophoroi?
    How much extra will the mercaneries set me back compared to home-grown ones?

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    OOC: I thought you would spawn them all at once. :[
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoCordis View Post
    How much extra will the mercaneries set me back compared to home-grown ones?

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    OOC: I thought you would spawn them all at once. :[
    The upkeep of the unit is the same. The recruitment cost is higher though. You don't loose much since other two machimoi units are recruited during the next two seasons.

    OOC: No, I don't spawn them. The only time I used this option was when we started the game. Later, if anyone wants an estate then his supervisor units are recruited like normal units.

    Edit: Just to make sure I don't miss anything.
    These are current orders:
    Timon Arrhidaeos
    *Sell estate (I leave it empty so that it will disapper next turn)
    *Disband Supervisor unit.
    *Buy 10 ships (-5000 mnai)
    *Trade route: Hierosolyma - Memphis
    Philadelphos Ptolemaios
    *Trade Route: Alexandreia - Salamis
    Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou
    *Recruit: Machimoi Phalangitai (Alexandreia)
    *Recruit: Merc Thureophoroi (Alexandreia)

    OOC: I'm giving strategos roma little more time to establish a new trade route.
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 06-23-2011 at 11:51.

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    Right I see. The tiny money lost will be OK over the offset of the time. I assume they'll all be in Alexandria until I choose to recruit them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoCordis View Post
    Right I see. The tiny money lost will be OK over the offset of the time. I assume they'll all be in Alexandria until I choose to recruit them?
    What do you mean by "until I choose to recruit them"? You don't want to recruit them this turn?

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