I hate Philosophy.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I hate Philosophy. So boring and so useless.

[Rhyfelwyr]

You doing it at University or something?

I think its interesting... until it gets confusing and then I just get tired and go take a nap.

[Subotan]

Wrong.

Philosophy is awesome.

[naut]

But, the question is, do you really hate philosophy? What if you are actually a philosopher dreaming he is a boy doing philosophy and pretending to hate it?

[Veho Nex]

Guess you're not one for metacognition.

My highschool gave out awards based on the students and thats what I received. The metacognition award, for my continual promises to do my homework and never actually turning it in. I used to be pretty good at it too, like, DON'T WORRY I got this legit idea Mr.Teach, its going to include pigeons and gas prices and how they all mold around this one central thesis and how it all ties into interstellar travel.

true story bros. true story

[Peasant Phill]

Philosophy boring? How preposterous.

Where else can you argue that democracy as practically the same as slavery and win the argument or utter the words "Sir, it's turtles all the way down".

It's mostly useless, I give you that.

[The Stranger]

bring it to the Backroom brother, i will eat you for breakfast!

[The Stranger]

I hate Philosophy. So boring and so useless.

you are most likely talking about history of philosophy.

philosophy cant really be boring, its not what you think or think about its how you think, the structures and layers of your thought.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[Veho Nex]

... its how you think, the structures and layers of your thought.

When you put it that way...

[Subotan]

It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Well, that depends. What are you studying? If it's Hegel, I'm so sorry, but I can't help you.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Philosophy are other people's ideas. Talk to as many people as you can in your city. Do you understand them and who they are? Not really. So why would you think that understanding the thoughts of someone who lived 50-4,000 years before you would be any easier?

[Fragony]

Yeah philosophy is boring and useless, boring and useless people will tell other boring and useless people it isn't but it is. I get especially annoyed when someone backs up an argument with quoting one of these armchair-knowololigists

BUT KANT SAID

oh did he #cares

[a completely inoffensive name]

I am about to take an intro to philosophy course at my local community college to get some general requirements done with.

[Fragony]

I am about to take an intro to philosophy course at my local community college to get some general requirements done with.

Banging vegetarian chicks with hairy armpits? At least you will understand more of the world than Hegel Kant and Descartes combined, but you already do if you go out to buy an icecream

[The Stranger]

Yeah philosophy is boring and useless, boring and useless people will tell other boring and useless people it isn't but it is. I get especially annoyed when someone backs up an argument with quoting one of these armchair-knowololigists

BUT KANT SAID

oh did he #cares

you are just hating cuz u dont get it XD

[Fragony]

you are just hating cuz u dont get it XD

It's rather easy, a page, you read it, what's on the page?, you write it down, points

[Hooahguy]

I find that philosophy can be interesting if its a discussion. But writing a paper on Kant's views is very tedious and borderline boring, IMO.

[The Stranger]

It's rather easy, a page, you read it, what's on the page?, you write it down, points

more the fool, you!

[The Stranger]

I find that philosophy can be interesting if its a discussion. But writing a paper on Kant's views is very tedious and borderline boring, IMO.

writing a paper on kants views is not philosophy. it is history of philosophy... you do not do anything yourself that can be remotely considered philosphy, all you do then is learn and recite the words of others.

use the words of kant to forge your own views or dont use them, whatever you like, but as long as you dont create but only recite you are not a philosopher but a historian.

and i dont think history is boring, mind you, the ideas of other people can be very interesting and also useful to make your own.

[Subotan]

I find that philosophy can be interesting if its a discussion. But writing a paper on Kant's views is very tedious and borderline boring, IMO.

Stuff like that really depends on the philosopher. Nietzsche and Marx, to pick two completely unrelated examples, are both much more interesting to read. E.g.:

O my brothers! With whom lies the greatest danger to the whole human future? Is it not with the good and just?-
-As those who say and feel in their hearts: "We already know what is good and just, we possess it also; woe to those who still seek thereafter!
And whatever harm the wicked may do, the harm of the good is the harmfulest harm!
And whatever harm the world-maligners may do, the harm of the good is the harmfulest harm!
O my brothers, into the hearts of the good and just looked some one once on a time, who said: "They are the Pharisees." But people did not understand him.
The good and just themselves were not free to understand him; their spirit was imprisoned in their good conscience. The stupidity of the good is unfathomably wise.
It is the truth, however, that the good must be Pharisees- they have no choice!
The good must crucify him who creates his own virtue! That is the truth!
The second one, however, who discovered their country- the country, heart and soil of the good and just,- it was he who asked: "Whom do they hate most?"
The creator, hate they most, him who breaks the law-tablets and old values, the breaker,- him they call the law-breaker.
For the good- they cannot create; they are always the beginning of the end:-
-They crucify him who writes new values on new law-tablets, they sacrifice to themselves the future- they crucify the whole human future!
The good- they have always been the beginning of the end.-

And

The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas; hence of the relationships which make the one class the ruling one, therefore, the ideas of its dominance. The individuals composing the ruling class possess among other things consciousness, and therefore think. Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch.

HNNNNNNNNGGG

[phonicsmonkey]

It is true that some people do not value abstract thought for its own sake and consequently find the exercise boring because they cannot see a practical application in it.

As a philosophy graduate myself I would argue that the very practice of philosophy trains the brain to think in a critical and sceptical manner which is extremely valuable in life including the modern workplace.

What is also very valuable is developing the skill of argument.

Not just ranting on about your point of view but taking other points of view into consideration, synthesising them with your own and being able to communicate persuasively to win people over to your side. Influence, to put it another way. Something that, again, is extremely valuable in the modern corporate environment.

But to those who would reject these benefits I would put the case that philosophy spawns other disciplines.

For example what started as philosophy became physics once more is known. In fact all of the sciences were once part of philosophy.

So it can hardly be dismissed as useless.

[The Stranger]

synthesising them with your own and being able to communicate persuasively to win people over to your side.

plato would slap you flat in the face and call you a sophist.

[Fragony]

plato would slap you flat in the face and call you a sophist.

Sophists are also philosophers; best argument always wins not the most moral one. See there we have it PLATO SAYS but he is an authority in wut for wut

[Thunder Mist]

Philosophy are other people's ideas. Talk to as many people as you can in your city. Do you understand them and who they are? Not really. So why would you think that understanding the thoughts of someone who lived 50-4,000 years before you would be any easier?

Haha, I like this. Gave me a good laugh.

I find that philosophy can be interesting if its a discussion. But writing a paper on Kant's views is very tedious and borderline boring, IMO.

I won't pretend to be an expert on the broad subject of philosophy, but I also won't deny that I know how to thoroughly write a good paper. However, give me a topic that utterly refuses to fascinate me, and I will go jump off a building.

I think we have some common ground, Hooah.

[jirisys]

Wrong.

Philosophy is awesome.

It is.

This is philosophy, though more informal, a nice start to the subject anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8V8rtdXnLA

Yes, Believe it or not, He actually is a professional philosopher.

It's great to know you are so wrong about everything.

~Jirisys ()

[The Stranger]

Sophists are also philosophers; best argument always wins not the most moral one. See there we have it PLATO SAYS but he is an authority in wut for wut

and again you prove you dont understand it and are here only to mock and drive home your point. i guess you wouldnt know a joke if it was dancing infront of you with a fool's hat on his head!

every philosopher knows plato was the biggest sophist of all and i think you do too.

btw philosophy isnt about winning arguments its about understanding. ofcourse you can use that understanding to win arguments... but you can also use a pen to kill a man...

[The Stranger]

It is.

This is philosophy, though more informal, a nice start to the subject anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8V8rtdXnLA

Yes, Believe it or not, He actually is a professional philosopher.

It's great to know you are so wrong about everything.

~Jirisys ()

us lesser subgeniusses...

boy he's got it wrong...



lmao, the part about paralysis vs money cracked me up... that was really bad XD i truly hate statistics.

[Fragony]

and again you prove you dont understand it and are here only to mock and drive home your point. i guess you wouldnt know a joke if it was dancing infront of you with a fool's hat on his head!

every philosopher knows plato was the biggest sophist of all and i think you do too.

btw philosophy isnt about winning arguments its about understanding. ofcourse you can use that understanding to win arguments... but you can also use a pen to kill a man...

ehm k, so sophism isn't about the best argument despite morality, plato would slap you in the face, sophism is what he protested

[naut]

You should take philosophy more seriously. I travel the world learning all forms of philosophical teachings and conundrums (except for Jedi Mind Tricks, I am not yet powerful enough to master those), all the while lifting heavy and taking my multi. It has led me to many great places and more tang than any Earthly man could ever possibly need. For example, when I was in Turkmenistan I was taught a very deep lesson by a humble shepherd: "A man who spends too long in the shadows gets mugged." I carry this motto with me to this very day. If you lift heavy, take your multi, and learn the ways of philosophy, maybe, Warman, you too can become an alpha dog able to psychoanalyse a person by a sentence, seduce a woman with a stare and predict an approaching menstrual cycle from the slightest whiff.