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    Night is lagging and it's my fault. Will post before work. Apologies for the delay.
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    NIGHT SEVEN




    The next morning, they found the remains of Secura. Her mouth was full of Pepperoni. There were slices of pepperoni stuffed into her nose and ears. She was bloated with pepperoni and it oozed out of every orifice. She was not a happy camper. In fact, she was little more than dead meat. Dead, spicy meat.


    However, they also found TheLastDays not too far away. And it seemed that his body had been pushed halfway through a meat grinder.... and his remains were being turned into sausage. He was not a happy camper. In fact, he was little more than dead, spicy meat.



    Askthepizzaguy: "Now witness the true horror of the heretic's ways. The great Pizza brings ingredients together.... but these villains who obsess over a certain kind of ingredient at the expense of all the others are vile, murderous, intolerant, militant supremacists. Repent now if you are part of these cults. Repent, or die!"


    They pondered his words, and soon, each remaining member of the sausage cult had renounced their heretic ways.


    But it was not over.... their nightmare had only just begun.



    Alive:

    ArpeggiateTHIS
    Classical_hero
    GeneralHankerchief
    Major Robert Dump
    Renata
    Robbiecon
    Seon



    Dead:

    issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you

    Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches
    Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon.

    Believer- Died going against the grain.

    Populus Romanus- Askthepizzaguy rules!

    Diamondeye- He was a paper tiger.

    Ibn-Khaldun- Had other commitments and asked to leave the game.

    Romanic- Has joined the choir invisible.... with sausage.

    Secura- She made this game less of a sausage-fest.... and yet, made it even more of a sausage-fest.


    TheLastDays- These were his last days.







    DAY EIGHT
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    Vote: classical_hero, most of the others are, in my eyes absolved of all sins, and my eyes, and more importantly hands know what they're dealing with.

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    As promised, I sold out a Sausage member last round, and this round I shall vote for a Pepperoni. According to what was discussed in the Pepperoni QT, Arpegg was the last sausage recruit (and the last recruit altogether) and now he is back to being townie.

    The Pepperonis did not recruit last round, they re-recruited someone already in the clan as damage control in case that person was stolen, because most of their recruits had either been pulled away to Sausage or back to town (or lynched). This means Arpegg is definitely a vanilla townie, and he was the sole member to survive from the clan and go back to being a townie. The Last Days was a double agent who kept getting pulled back and forth between the clans through recruiting. I do not know why he was killed other than the Sausages obviously thought he was a Pepperoni leader. He may have been, I don't know, although the obituary does not say like it does for the others. Secura was clearly killed by the Pepperoni leadership since she was a sausage.

    My strongest suspect is currently Classical Hero, based on exchanges with the "leadership" in the QT. I am essentially committing mutiny and requesting to be recruited back to a townie. The 2nd in command may have already been lynched (DE?), and may have been sold out to the Sausages by The Last Days. With C_H gone, the town should win after the lynch. If there is a 2nd Pepperoni leader, there may be another murder on the night phase and at that point we are cutting it way too close.
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    This has to come out in the open. Someone seems to have made a secret second account just so send me this message.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unrequited
    Firstly, you must not reveal your knowledge of this message to anyone, it's for your eyes only.

    You've received this message because in-thread behavior suggests that you are a possible cult leader and I am approaching both cults here out of fairness and a sense of honor.

    You have both been heavily compromised. TheLastDays is an unrecruitable townie that has been given access to both of your group's QuickTopics over the course of the game. Trust me when I say, he knows who all the leaders are and will be outing you day-by-day, if MRD doesn't beat him to it with the Pepperoni.

    This is a recruitment game, and I want to win as a cultist, not a townie. I suggest that you both decide to remove TLD and possibly MRD as soon as you can kill. Feel free to ask questions, I'll answer as best I can while staying anonymous.

    Again: keep this to yourself, you cannot trust anyone in your cult.
    Since this was done in secret to me I have no idea who exactly is this player, so you can look for the name to know that I am not ing you.

    Right now I don't have a good clue about is cult or not. But I have had a hunch about vote:GeneralHandkerchief for awhile.
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    Vote: Classical Hero
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    After the above post by C_H, unvote
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    The author of that message says "your cult." What cult were you a part of and how did you get back to being a townie, or are you still a pepperoni?
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    I have never been cult so I have always been townie.

    I might as well put a big target no back now, since the other remaining cultist, most likely the source of the PM will not try and kill me as a result of me saying that.
    Last edited by classical_hero; 07-22-2011 at 18:29.

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    My message worked, even if the method was dishonorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    I do not know why he was killed other than the Sausages obviously thought he was a Pepperoni leader.
    I will explain the reasoning behind the kill once the game ends, but there's a reason why I didn't choose our main suspect.

    If there is a 2nd Pepperoni leader, there may be another murder on the night phase and at that point we are cutting it way too close.
    The question is, why would the other cult even bother killing now? They can continue a cycle of lynching one of the town, recruiting the other until everyone is Pepperoni; if the game continued, that would indicate an unrecruitable townie still lives and that would necessitate a kill. Otherwise, it's plain sailing.

    I have to say that I think that a town victory is the best course of action now (and I want you to win), if only for the fact that the Pepperoni Cult Leader is very, very undeserving of victory, for reasons I'll touch on at the end of the game.

    My opinion may count for little as a dead cultist, but we strongly believed that classical_hero was the leader; I encourage both the former Sausages and the current Pepperonis to vote for him and win the game for yourselves rather than his cult.

    Quote Originally Posted by classical_hero View Post
    I have never been cult so I have always been townie.
    This is a lie; the rules state (as MRD has reiterated) that kills will only begin once everyone that can be recruited has been at least once. Obviously you realised this mistake and edited your post to make yourself look more genuine, since there's no stronger claim than that of an unrecruitable townie, right? :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrequited View Post
    My message worked, even if the method was dishonorable.
    I liked your style, though the reasons that TLD was killed were not based on your message, s'about all I can say.
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    What's the vote count?

    If everyone has voted an hour from now, or let's be fair, 6 people have voted and it's not a tie, then the round is over.

    My call is if 5 or less have voted, I'll give an extension. I'm off to work rather shortly so I won't be here for the 24-hour mark deadline.

    Either decide or use the above to get an extension.
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    Back to square one

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    Sorry, MRD. You were right to be paranoid. I'm the town recruiter, and I'm pretty sure we have the numbers on you. More importantly, we definitely have your identity, and you're the last of the original cult leaders. The sausage cult is dead. The pepperoni cult was you and TheLastDays. You sacrificed him to get the information on the sausages, but it didn't quite work out. It's been a matter of choosing my time, and I think this is it.

    vote: MRD

    (I apologize tremendously for the issue with the deadline by the way. I lost track of it AGAIN. I wouldn't have saved it so "late" if I'd known; it's cheesy and not in the nice Pizza-y goodness way, either.)

    For the townies, here is the evidence:

    On TLD, here is post 29 of the pepperoni QT:
    Well I don't think that Renata meant to not give out the QT link but to "mask" our recruits, giving them codenames in here although for those we've already mentioned it won't make any difference now...

    Still, after thinking about it I guess it's worth to consider for the future...
    It is signed by "Propagandist", one of the original cult leaders.

    Here is post 43, by TheLastDays, The Boss' second "recruit" (I was the first):
    WEll I guess it makes sense to reveal who I am, since I seem to be so popular in this game...

    I've been recruited the night before, by the other cult... And now this night you guys recruited me, fun times ^^

    If you want to lanch GH I guess it's easy for me to vote for him again since I have already shown inthread that I didn't like his wagon on Blackadder...
    See the ellipses? It's a tic of TLD's.
    Post 75
    Guys, guys (and Renata of course), I walk out for a moment and all turns into a mess.

    TLD, be careful. Now that people have actually voiced the opinion of you being a converted townie, this town converter might target you.

    You seem to forget one thing though: The rules state that the killing will start when all recruitable players have been recruited at least once. So the townies that are recruited back to town will not slow down the way to killings.
    What's the point of telling TLD to be careful if he's a real recruit? This is just for show.

    Remember also the effort that TLD has been putting out all game, and how scummy he was.

    And finally, what I thought for a time was a a bad MISTAKE from this team was actually strategy: they outed my name from the get-go despite knowing it would make me bait for any other recruiters who happened by (*cough*), because they wanted the cover (and the bait status) for TLD.

    Now to Major Robert Dump. The first line of evidence is post 59 in the game thread. This is day one. See underlined.
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Okay, lets try to figure out what the team distribution will be.

    Obviously there are cult leaders and (per the game rules) at least 2 cults. The rules also mention other roles that aren't townie or cult, so maybe a serial killer or the like. That leaves 14 other people to account for. 14 v 2 v 1 seem kind of long odds for the cult and the serial killer. Unless the cults start with organic members other than the leader which would change the composition to who knows what. For example, are both cults equal or do they get specific talents?

    Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.
    As much as I hate PIS accusations ( ), that is one heck of an extrapolation to be making based on the information at hand. (It's not even consistent with most cults I've been a part of.) I would submit that MRD already knew that there were two leaders of each cult, and is trying to present it here as a logical deduction as opposed to inherent knowledge.

    I call MRD on this myself in the QT (once I find out), and get this response from "The Boss" in post 28:
    #59 is MRD grasping at straws like he does in his first postings in games. It usually gets him lynched because it makes people paranoid and he would be a good distraction vote if there weren't already a bandwagon going.

    GH is a threat to us if he knows anything.

    I'm interested in recruiting possibly Romanic, DiamondEye and/or TheLastDays.

    As for people getting this QT and not being converted/stolen from the cult, we have taken this into consideration and concluded that the pros of group communication outweigh the cons. The cultists will be on a need to know status.
    Nice hand-waving, right?

    There are also a number of similarities in posting style that I won't bother to point out, since I also have stuff like this PM:
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    No idea who the recruiter is, I want to say GH for tht thing with blackadder, but blackadder was not a clan leader unless he had a serial killer role type role.

    If Seon has been recruited and then doesnt say anything, then he takes his chances like everyone else, as it stands I would recruit him back if he would give the word. The most we can legitamtely win with at this point is 4 ppl, even if we kill the recruiter we still have another day of lynching before the next recruitment phase. I have to kill tonight as much as I hate to, it is a necessity, otherwise we don't have a majority next lynch day.
    This was sent to me and Seon. If I'm wrong about either of the cult leaders, then Seon is probably the one we're looking for, but I don't think I'm wrong.

    Roll the dice.

    http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/nCPDbCPXbafR

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    Vote: classical_hero

    We are looking for the Pepperoni Boss. Since Renata has so graciously provided the Pepperoni QT to all of us, this makes detective work easier to do. First, we'll start out with the list of currently living players:

    ArpeggiateTHIS
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    Major Robert Dump
    Renata
    Robbiecon
    Seon
    Glancing at the QT for more than two seconds will prove that I am in no way affiliated with the Pepperoni cult, since they have tried to get me killed via one way or another throughout the entire game. It is also not Renata, the whistleblower on all of this. Robbiecon is out, as per "Boss"'s posts #91 and 92:

    In the meantime, General Handkerchief and Robbiecon are fair game on the lynch.
    Okay, Some of you seem easily confused :P So I will explain a little better.

    GH and Robbie are townies. Maybe special townies. Minus the whole murder thing, townies are a bigger threat than cults because when we kill the other cult leader all his members will return to tonwie role and we may be outnumbered on votes. So next round I want to focus on townies: GH and Robbiecon. I don't care what pretext you use or how or when you do it, in fact, if they look likely to be lynched feel free to abstain or to vote for a fellow cultist as a decoy, just as long as one of those two gets killed.
    MRD is affiliated with the cult but not "Boss", as Renata has already pointed out. He's "Propagandist". This means we're down to three, Arpeggiate, classical_hero, and Seon.

    We know that "Boss" has been a lurker for most of the game since, according to Post 118:

    I need everyone to no vote for GH today. I may actually vote for a change. He has to die
    Also with this information, "Boss" reveals several times throughout the Quicktopic that he has children. This rules out Arpeggiate since he is an RL friend of Subotan, Subotan being a university student who has just finished up his freshman year at I believe Oxford. Assuming Arpeggiate and Subotan are even relatively close to the same age I find it extremely unlikely that Arpegg has at least two children. So we're down to C_H and Seon.

    Let's turn back to Post 91 for a second:

    In the meantime, General Handkerchief and Robbiecon are fair game on the lynch.
    "Boss" spelled my name "Handkerchief" - the correct way to do so, and not my intentional misspelling of the word as "Hankerchief" without a D. This is also not a onetime occurrence, as he does so again in Post 105:

    This round, do not vote for DiamondEye, Seon, TLD or Renata. Vote for either General Handkerchief or Robbiecon.
    Where am I going with this?

    Quote Originally Posted by classical_hero View Post
    I still don't like the vibe he is sending, so I shall vote:GeneralHandkerchief
    Quote Originally Posted by classical_hero View Post
    Right now I don't have a good clue about is cult or not. But I have had a hunch about vote:GeneralHandkerchief for awhile.
    Seon made no (mis)spellings of the word, and in addition C_H has voted for me twice more, here and here, the first of those being on July 4th which would ring true with his claim of "I have been trying to get GH lynched from day 1" as per Post 121.

    There is also his claim of having been a "boss" in a game some months back which other people might be able to confirm, but in the meantime I think this is more than enough evidence that C_H is our boy.
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    By the way ATPG, do not delete the Pepperoni Quicktopic, as I'm probably going to bronze it for amusement's sake after the game.
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    Well played Renata.
    However, basing TLDs identity on some ellepsis is a pretty far stretch. Also suggesting that the cult leader would contact you of all people directly and spill all beans to you is also a stretch.

    I was recruited after you, but it has always been clear in the QT that they had plans for you from the beginning.

    I am but a humble cultist acting as liasion for my leadership as I was given anonymous orders, while in the thread I pleaded to be recruited back to town. In the public QT I argued with the Leader in an effort to be distanced from the cult while being fed orders by the same person I was arguing with. All of my correspondence with you has been with the underlying notion that you may be the cult leader, or you may be a special town role, and if so I made statements and claims that you and only you can prove or disprove.

    I have been playing both sides, willing to jump ship and go to another team on a whim, if it means I can survive a game for once. I knew the leader was planning on killing Secura last night, so I publicly defied him knowing it would buy me one more day and perhaps one of the pepperoni leaders would be killed or someone would recruit me back to town.

    Hear you not my cry for help, yet you want to lynch me instead?

    Are you one of the Pepperoni leaders, perhaps the 2nd in command? Suggesting that one Pepperoni leader is dead when in fact both are still alive is highly convenient for you and your boss, which lends merit to the ridiculous nature on which you base TLDs "role" as the propogandist. It also means if you can get someone else lynched and murdered for one more day your team will be almost unstoppable as you will still have at least 1 night kill remaining between the two of you.

    This also explains why you PM'd me exactly 30 seconds after I posted in the QT that I knew who the Boss was. I waited until after night phase because I wanted to see if they would murder me, and then I came to you with the notion that I was the leader, a notion you were way too willing to buy off on despite evidence suggesting otherwise, probably because it was very convenient for covering your own butt.
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    Default Re: It's a surprise mafia [In Play]

    ArpeggiateTHIS NO VOTE
    Classical_hero GENERALHANKY
    GeneralHankerchief CLASSICAL
    Major Robert Dump CLASSICAL
    Renata MRD
    Robbiecon CLASSICAL
    Seon NO VOTE

    Classical is the lynch leader with 3 votes. You have the extension due to lack of votes at the deadline.
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    In case I wasn't clear, C_H is still my primary suspect.

    My secondaries used to be GH or Seon, but now it is Renata for the manner in which she bought into my claim of being the Pepperoni leader.

    Here is a question: Why would I, as the leader, hand you guys Romanic knowing full well that the "Boss" was going to kill Secura during nightphase and therefore revert all the Sausage cultists back to town, stacking the cards against my clan with a sudden influx of townies?
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    Default Re: It's a surprise mafia [In Play]

    I am going to unvote for now and read the QT and see what is going on. Is Renata giving out this QT a ploy to get people off her? IS GH being saying those things to get the suspicion of him? This game just got very much interesting.

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    Default Re: It's a surprise mafia [In Play]

    Considering we are dealing with most likely a lurker who is trying to be the winning cultist I will say that vote:ArpeggiateTHIS is the most likely one to be the leader. I have rarely seen him post and it seems that he is very much lurking in this game and trying for the victory.

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    So classical_hero just made a new post in the QT as himself, saying "thanks to Renata for this". It made me realize that another strike against him was that the general timeframe he posted that generally corresponds that the times that "Boss" made his posts in the QT.

    This is getting funny now.
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    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    So classical_hero just made a new post in the QT as himself, saying "thanks to Renata for this". It made me realize that another strike against him was that the general timeframe he posted that generally corresponds that the times that "Boss" made his posts in the QT.

    This is getting funny now.
    Well today is a Saturday, so I am not at work. So that means I have time to be posting at that time, but when I have been working, which is from 12pm to 8m my time and sometime even later, it means that the Boss cannot be me since i do not have internet access at work and I can only ever post from home. The time that it equate to in the QT is 12am to 8am, since right now ET is 12 hours behind my time. So you can see from the below picture the time is 4:44am ET, which equates to 4:44pm my time, which means i would somehow would have posted that from a mobile device, which my current LG shine can't do, since I have tried to view the forums on my phone, but it is not smart enough to do that.
    Just go to the most recent post of the person caled the Boss to see his time, since ATPG does not allow screenshots, so he asked me to remove it. But since the link is above you can all see for yourselves.
    So you can see that I could never have posted that, since I am a shift worker, so that means that ever two weeks I do one shift and then the next fortnight I do another shift, making my posting times erratic.

    I have to a big hearty thanks to the cult leader for thinking so highly of me. He is doing his very best to set me up for the fall and I thank him for thinking so highly of me to have such an elaborate set up all aimed at getting rid of me. He must have figured out by now that I am an unrecruitable townie and doing his best to get rid of me by any means needed. I am truly grateful for being though of so highly, it is truly a great honour for such an elaborate scheme to be placed in trying to get me lynched. I am so honoured about that. That is why this QT has been leaked since it is now out of use, sin there have been no posts since Wednesday. So such a scheme needs a great defence, which is why I am doing something I rarely do and post a big long defence of myself. So lets have a look at the voting patterns.

    Day one votes:
    Askthepizzaguy: 3 (GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays, issaikhaan)

    Diamondeye: 2 (classical_hero, Believer)
    GeneralHankerchief: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Mr. Stuka)
    issaikhaan: 2 (Romanic, Diamondeye)

    ArpeggiateTHIS: 1 (Renata)
    Mr. Stuka: 1 (Secura)
    Poulus Romanus: 1 (Captain Blackadder)
    Day one votes are generally wrthless since it is just feelers for the game, so not much could be happening on that day, but by any right the game should have been finished with the death of the host.

    Day two votes:
    Blackadder: GH, IK, Renata, Romanic, Mr Stuka, classical_hero, MRD,
    GH: TLD, Populus Romanus, CB
    Mr Stuka: AT, Secura,
    Renata: Believer
    Believer: DE
    Most people voted for CB on the instructins of GH. Not much to go there, unless GH is actually the boss, but I don't think that is likely.

    Day three votes:
    Stuka: Arpeg, Secura, Renata,
    GH: DE, PR,
    TLD: Romanic, GH
    MRD: IK
    Believer: TLD
    Arpeg: Stuka

    Day four votes:
    4 Believer (Diamondeye, Major Robert Dump, GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays)
    3 TheLastDays (Romanic, Believer, Populus Romanus)
    1 GeneralHankerchief (classical_hero)
    1 classical_hero (Secura)
    1 Major Robert Dump (Ibn Khaldun)
    ---
    4 not voting (ArpeggiateTHIS, Renata, robbiecon, Seon)

    Day five votes:
    5 Populus Romanus (Secura, Arpeg, robbiecon, DE, Renata)
    4 robbiecon (MRD, TLD, CH, Populus)
    2 TLD (Romanic, Ibn)
    1 DE (GH)
    ---
    1 no vote (Seon)

    Day six voting:
    DE: GH, robbie, Romanic
    GH: Seon, c_h, DE
    robbie: TLD, MRD
    Seon: Secura,

    Day seven vote:
    GeneralHankerchief SEON
    Romanic SEON
    Secura SEON

    TheLastDays ROMANIC
    Major Robert Dump ROMANIC
    Renata ROMANIC
    Seon ROMANIC

    Classical_hero GENERALHANKERCHIEF

    ArpeggiateTHIS NO VOTE
    Robbiecon NO VOTE

    So I hav highlighted my suspect based on his behaviour in the game. Appreg has hardly voted and the times he has he has been voting to get people eliminated, making his job so much eaiser. He is lurking his way to victory, if you allow him to.
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    This is entirely my fault, but "No screenshots" should be in the rules, and it's not.

    Consider it to be as of this moment. C_H posted nothing incriminating or bad, but at the same time, I realized he just did it legally and I couldn't allow that as a precedent.

    Sorry.
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    C_H: Originally, I thought it was Arpegg too, but then I saw the repeated "kids" thing in the Quicktopic. I'm about 97% sure that he is a RL friend of Subotan's, who is definitely a university student, and under Arpegg's profile it even lists "student" as his occupation. Now there's you, who just in your most recent post admitted you're a shift worker and thus more likely than not older than Arpeggiate. So, I ask you (and the rest of the town I guess), which scenario is the most likely:

    a) A 19/20ish year old university student has multiple children and is not lying about it in the QT
    b) A (presumably) older member of the workforce has multiple children and is not lying about it in the QT
    c) Arpeggiate is the cult leader but does not have any children and all of the references in the Quicktopic mentioning that he does not to mention his .Org profile are an elaborate trap set up from the very beginning of the game specifically designed to frame you.

    This doesn't even take into account the whole handkerchief/hankerchief distinction, which is another strike against you.
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    In addition to the above:

    Take Arpeggiate's post on July 7th:

    Quote Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS View Post
    Apologies for my inactivity, I've just got back from a few days away (and you can check that; it's concurrent with information given in The Crazy Game). I'll post a vote as soon as I get the chance.
    Now, "Boss" made multiple posts in the QT on July 3, 4, 5, and 6. So "Boss" was very clearly monitoring things on those dates, while Arpegg was nowhere in sight.

    Finally, take "Boss"'s post 121 in the QT:

    I have been trying to get GH lynched from day 1
    And let's cross-reference that with the voting record you mentioned above:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Day one votes:
    Askthepizzaguy: 3 (GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays, issaikhaan)

    Diamondeye: 2 (classical_hero, Believer)
    GeneralHankerchief: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Mr. Stuka)
    issaikhaan: 2 (Romanic, Diamondeye)

    ArpeggiateTHIS: 1 (Renata)
    Mr. Stuka: 1 (Secura)
    Poulus Romanus: 1 (Captain Blackadder)
    Day one votes are generally wrthless since it is just feelers for the game, so not much could be happening on that day, but by any right the game should have been finished with the death of the host.

    Day two votes:
    Blackadder: GH, IK, Renata, Romanic, Mr Stuka, classical_hero, MRD,
    GH: TLD, Populus Romanus, CB
    Mr Stuka: AT, Secura,
    Renata: Believer
    Believer: DE
    Most people voted for CB on the instructins of GH. Not much to go there, unless GH is actually the boss, but I don't think that is likely.

    Day three votes:
    Stuka: Arpeg, Secura, Renata,
    GH: DE, PR,
    TLD: Romanic, GH
    MRD: IK
    Believer: TLD
    Arpeg: Stuka

    Day four votes:
    4 Believer (Diamondeye, Major Robert Dump, GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays)
    3 TheLastDays (Romanic, Believer, Populus Romanus)
    1 GeneralHankerchief (classical_hero)
    1 classical_hero (Secura)
    1 Major Robert Dump (Ibn Khaldun)
    ---
    4 not voting (ArpeggiateTHIS, Renata, robbiecon, Seon)

    Day five votes:
    5 Populus Romanus (Secura, Arpeg, robbiecon, DE, Renata)
    4 robbiecon (MRD, TLD, CH, Populus)
    2 TLD (Romanic, Ibn)
    1 DE (GH)
    ---
    1 no vote (Seon)

    Day six voting:
    DE: GH, robbie, Romanic
    GH: Seon, c_h, DE
    robbie: TLD, MRD
    Seon: Secura,

    Day seven vote:
    GeneralHankerchief SEON
    Romanic SEON
    Secura SEON

    TheLastDays ROMANIC
    Major Robert Dump ROMANIC
    Renata ROMANIC
    Seon ROMANIC

    Classical_hero GENERALHANKERCHIEF

    ArpeggiateTHIS NO VOTE
    Robbiecon NO VOTE


    What jumps out? For someone who says he's been trying to get rid of me from Day 1, Arpegg has not once voted for me. Contrast that with you, who has done so on multiple occasions.

    Bottom line, either you're the boss or ArpeggiateTHIS is pulling the single most elaborate frame job I have ever seen in a mafia game. I leave it up to the town to determine which one is the more likely scenario.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
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    Condensed version for the wall-of-text averse:

    CLASSICAL_HERO IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THE BOSS OF THE PEPPERONI CULT.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    I am single and therefore I don't have any kids either. So if not arpeg, then it could be Robbiecon and he is using the chrome thing as a cover? But I am thinking the kids thin is about the game and not real life.

    About the going after you from day one, I have only ever voted for you since day 4. I even voted with you on day two since you put up such a "strong, convincing argument" against CB, and yet you have kept that a secret, which is why I voted for you on day four, since generally only scum would ever try and control the town like that. So that is why I have kept my eye on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by classical_hero View Post
    So if not arpeg, then it could be Robbiecon and he is using the chrome thing as a cover?
    Highly unlikely, due to the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by QT 87
    Don't let TLD get lynched. I don't care who you vote for (GH would be great!) but keep TLD alive. The only other person being voted so far is Robbiecon, and he is fair game, so blend in on the wagon if you must
    Quote Originally Posted by 91
    In the meantime, General Handkerchief and Robbiecon are fair game on the lynch.
    Quote Originally Posted by 92
    GH and Robbie are townies. Maybe special townies. Minus the whole murder thing, townies are a bigger threat than cults because when we kill the other cult leader all his members will return to tonwie role and we may be outnumbered on votes. So next round I want to focus on townies: GH and Robbiecon. I don't care what pretext you use or how or when you do it, in fact, if they look likely to be lynched feel free to abstain or to vote for a fellow cultist as a decoy, just as long as one of those two gets killed.
    Quote Originally Posted by 105
    This round, do not vote for DiamondEye, Seon, TLD or Renata. Vote for either General Handkerchief or Robbiecon.
    Granted, "Boss"'s tone changed in the following...

    Quote Originally Posted by 124
    CH and Robbiecon are off limits.
    But then again you are mentioned in that same post so it doesn't tell us much. Also, TLD said in QT 94 that he was going to vote for robbie over me and "Boss" said nothing about urging TLD to go for me instead, an extremely risky play if "Boss" truly was robbiecon.

    Also, robbie voted for Diamondeye on Day 6 and has never once voted for me.

    Also, you're still not saying anything about the handkerchief/hankerchief distinction.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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