alright venice up
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also guys is a fort s wall going through as wooden or stone? i mean normally its wooden walls but in this version of the game for what reason ever on the battle map its stone. so are we opening walls with catapults already or trebuckets only? imo we are overrating forts if we made them trebuckets opened only. forts then are almost becoming permanent strongholds instead of a short lived firewall. so my vote is on catapults opening forts gates