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    With EB II do we still have to spend dozens of years in building higher and higher level MICs in order to recruit elite units?
    I mean, it's logical and historically accurate for some factions, but not always. For example, the EB starting year, 272BC, is the very year Pyrrhos died and Epeiros ceased to be a big player. If they still could not recruit Molosson and Chaonion Agema then, I doubt that they would be able to do so at all, in real history.
    I guess it's forced upon us by the mechanics of RTW, since if we allow the Epeirotes to recruit the two Agema from the beginning, they will be mass-producing them right away. But with the new engine of M2TW, the problem should have been solved. We can give the Epeirotes the ability to recruit the two Agema from turn 1, but then they can only recruit 1 unit of them per, say, 12 turns, and can maintain 2 units at the most. Only after you build higher level MIC can you get more of them and faster.
    So what do you say?
    Last edited by Julianus; 06-20-2011 at 16:19. Reason: grammar

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    Member Member Ptolemaios's Avatar
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    That always bothered me as well. Many factions had their elite units for decades, before 272 BC. I think it´s a good idea. And I think it´s possible to link a specific unit to a building in a certain city (E.g. In Third Age TW, you could recruit the fountainguard only in Minas Tirith, without having any MICs).You could use this for units like Massalian and Syracusian hoplites, or Pretorians etc.
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    You reminded me, I wonder if it is possible to change the AOR system into something more flexible and creative. If I build a large enough colony of Macedonians in Carthage, which must be vastly expensive and disliked by the local natives of course, why should I not be able to recruit some decent Macedonian troops there? Alexander did the same thing in Syria and Mesopotamia after all, and just 50 years after his death when EB started, we can recruit even Hetairoi in both of them. Considering that EB-era covered nearly 3 centuries, I believe it's only logical that we got the opportunity to re-write history a little as well.

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    haha, after I read the first paragraph I had the same Idea as you. Still, you had it first so It's your idea ;).
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    I'm sure the recruitment pools of M2TW will cover it, as some elites were around in 272 BC, but it would be wrong to recruit them straight away....
    All were veterans or land-owners they couldn't be replenish that fast, take for example the declining Sparte...
    So certain factions should have elites in their starting armies, but to recruit them again it would require at least a generation...
    Last edited by Arjos; 06-20-2011 at 18:54.

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    Good idea, hopefully it can be implemented.

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