Conspiracy nuts

[Strike For The South]

These can nether be proved or disproved, and so it goes on.

This is where you are blatantly wrong. It can be proven within reason . The man left memiors, paper trails, speeches.

Simply b/c you choose to disreagard the most logical explanation for the fanciful B grade hollywood plot does not mean it can't be proven

[Fisherking]

This is where you are blatantly wrong. It can be proven within reason . The man left memiors, paper trails, speeches.

Simply b/c you choose to disreagard the most logical explanation for the fanciful B grade hollywood plot does not mean it can't be proven

I am so sorry. This stuff used to be taught. I guess all my teachers and professors were just windbag conspiracy nuts and were tainted from living through the time.

I am sure he must have kept meticulous documents telling all his motives and how it was for the good of mankind.

I am sure that he, Morgan, Chase and the rest only had your interests at heart.

Of course to believe that it helps if you were born yesterday.


Actually none of us want to believe that there could be conspiracies. Even though we see them and even participate in them in small ways. To think that powerful people would be working against your interests is very unsettling and we much prefer to think that everyone is good is much more appealing.

But powerful people try to get their way even though it may not be for the good of all men. And institutions often do things seemingly with out reason.

What sort of monsters thought up and conducted the Tuskegee Experiment? What kind of leaders expose their troops to chemical and biological agents? What kind of lawmakers write laws that harm most of their constituents for the benefit of a very few?

You can pretend that things like that don’t happen and that no one would conspire to put their interests before the good of others if you like. It may make you feel better.

But some times powerful interests may be working against you. You might want to watch out for those.

[Strike For The South]

For the last time it is not about being "good" or my "best interests"

It is about what is most logical.

I've yet to find a reputable source on alcohol theory. I am content with Rockellfers biographers.

[Fisherking]

For the last time it is not about being "good" or my "best interests"

It is about what is most logical.

I've yet to find a reputable source on alcohol theory. I am content with Rockellfers biographers.

What criteria would us use for what is logical?

What is the logic for vaccinating minority babies with experimental vaccines without telling anyone?

What is the logic in exposing people at random to NBC agents in the New York subways or releasing Nerve Agents into the air in Utah to drift with the wind and you can see what dies?

At least with Rockefeller and Hurst the motive was money. They did what many others would have done had they the power and money to do so. They got laws passed that gave them more money and power.

It is what lobbyists and spin doctors do every day.

It is only a conspiracy if you think their intent was malevolent. I doubt very few set out to be a villain.

As to governmental and institutional logic it is hard to put your self in a mind set to see the good of what they thought they were doing but I am sure they thought it was for the best in some convoluted way or other.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I am sure he must have kept meticulous documents telling all his motives and how it was for the good of mankind.

I am sure that he, Morgan, Chase and the rest only had your interests at heart.

Of course to believe that it helps if you were born yesterday.

Lol, well if you are going to lump all the bankers and robber barons together as a homogenous group...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_of_Wealth

So yeah, if you want to generalize and put forth a very shoddy argument then you have to somehow explain away that book, which according to you would apply to all of them since you seem so keen on putting them in one big category.

[Fisherking]

Lol, well if you are going to lump all the bankers and robber barons together as a homogenous group...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_of_Wealth

So yeah, if you want to generalize and put forth a very shoddy argument then you have to somehow explain away that book, which according to you would apply to all of them since you seem so keen on putting them in one big category.

Invoking Andrew Carnegie must be your idea of a joke.

Wealth was an essay he wrote in 1889 and he mostly tried to live by it.

He was implicated in the Johnstown Flood which many said was a conspiracy, as it just happened to wipe out his chief competitor but it was most likely poor maintenance.

If it wasn’t, then Henry Frick would be the man to examine. Frick was his partner and was rather heavy handed in his methods (gross understatement). When ever there was trouble Carnegie seemed to be out of town and Frick did the dirty work.

When he sold the business it was to that paragon of virtue, J. P. Morgan.

[Major Robert Dump]

When the great tornado of 1999 ripped apart OKC, I painted on the debris of my house "Hey Mr President, Hows this for a blow job?" and I would not take it down when the secret service asked me to when he came to visit Tinker Air Base. Bill Clinton subsequently tried to have me assasinated, primarily through the means of having disease infected prostitutes solicit me for unprotected sex, to which I obliged. However, I am immune to said diseases, due primarily to secret government experiments which are another conspiracy theory altogether.

[Adrian II]

When the great tornado of 1999 ripped apart OKC, I painted on the debris of my house "Hey Mr President, Hows this for a blow job?"

[Ronin]

However, I am immune to said diseases, due primarily to secret government experiments which are another conspiracy theory altogether.

Tiger Blood is a secret government experiment??

[Fisherking]

When the great tornado of 1999 ripped apart OKC, I painted on the debris of my house "Hey Mr President, Hows this for a blow job?" and I would not take it down when the secret service asked me to when he came to visit Tinker Air Base. Bill Clinton subsequently tried to have me assasinated, primarily through the means of having disease infected prostitutes solicit me for unprotected sex, to which I obliged. However, I am immune to said diseases, due primarily to secret government experiments which are another conspiracy theory altogether.

Knowing what Clinton visits were like I can almost believe that.

Except if he was going to have you done in you would have been a suicide. Likely by beating your self over the head with a toilet seat until you were dead.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Right, there are no government conspiracies. Only Government Operations.

MKULTRA is the most famous but there are a whole laundry list of other MK and DOD operations which experimented on both US and Canadian Citizens.

Then we have the Projects. You ever hear of the Tuskegee Experiment?

Did you know that Gulf War Syndrome arose from government experiments on its own soldiers?

They admitted in 1996 that they had exposed them to various agents.

The CDC also conducted experiments using experimental vaccines on 1500 six-month old babies from black and Hispanic families with out ever informing parents. That was 1990.

Do you think they have stopped?

So what's your point?

[Centurion1]

When the great tornado of 1999 ripped apart OKC, I painted on the debris of my house "Hey Mr President, Hows this for a blow job?" and I would not take it down when the secret service asked me to when he came to visit Tinker Air Base. Bill Clinton subsequently tried to have me assasinated, primarily through the means of having disease infected prostitutes solicit me for unprotected sex, to which I obliged. However, I am immune to said diseases, due primarily to secret government experiments which are another conspiracy theory altogether.

LMAO