sorry guys I discovered in testing that I have botched these saves and the horde is not working correctly, so I'm going to have to run some more and test those before we proceed. I'll hopefully have another selection for you in a day or so, in the meantime don't waste too much time looking at the ones I already posted because we can't use them.

Do feel free to continue the rules and VCs discussion though.

So far suggestions have been:

- replace Jerusalem with Cairo and Moscow with Kiev in the Mongol VCs
- increase the number of territories required by the Mongols from 40 to a higher number (what number?)
- provide a grace period at the start for non-Mongol factions to organise