[EB] Whats Wrong?

[Lazy O]

Straightforward question, why do certain people (name begins with G but I wont take it, you get the idea) have a problem with Steppe armies? I have fought against them alot, I do not complain, I lose, yes, But I do not tell the other guy to stop doing it, what is the problem with people complaining about certain types of armies?

It went to a point where SOME people stopped playing me for some time, after which I thought lets just ditch the idea and go carthage next month....

[antisocialmunky]

A single game takes like 1 hour long.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I was wondering if maybe the steppe rules could be modified a wee bit as it just seems easier as steppe, even for me when I am not as talented with cavalry as some other players. The cavalry rules are fine imo, but maybe limit the infantry you can bring for steppe armies. Possibly a limit on heavy infantry if anyone would be willing to classify infantry types for those factions which can go steppe. It makes little sense that you can bring a steppe army with a full contingent of heavy infantry as well.

[gamegeek2]

(Applying to tournaments) - Impatience is not a good excuse not to play. It's more of an admission that you're just a dick, who committed to this tournament but decides to rob people of their opportunity to have fun because you're impatient. Besides, I find that against many factions, steppe players actually should not bring steppe armies, but people will refuse to play you anyways.

The exception is probably western barbarian factions, which (except the Getai) actually have almost no chance of beating a steppe army. If victory is not possible than the point of the game is moot - because one-sided slaughters, regardless of player skill, aren't fun. That's actually probably the only impossible matchup in the game. That's why I typically bring CAC against barbs, to have a - sort of - "fair fight."

Robin, there IS an infantry limit, it's 10. And have you read the Indo-Saka unit descriptions, where the Sakas' Indo-Greek vassals brought their heavy hoplites and Agema infantry to fight with them?

[The Celtic Viking]

Impatience is not a good excuse not to play. It's more of an admission that you're just a dick, who committed to this tournament but decides to rob people of their opportunity to have fun because you're impatient.

Well, that's a fatuous argument. If you're too impatient to fight against steppe armies, then chances are you won't have any fun fighting against steppe armies. Why should anyone be forced to fight a battle they won't enjoy just because... uh... someone else wants you to?

No one is trying to rob steppe players from their opportunity of having fun, but you are trying to guilt trip players to fight battles they don't enjoy playing. If someone doesn't want to play against a steppe army, then that's fine. He doesn't have to, so respect that decision. If no one else wants to play against a steppe army either, then that sucks for the guy playing steppe, but c'est la vie.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Robin, there IS an infantry limit, it's 10. And have you read the Indo-Saka unit descriptions, where the Sakas' Indo-Greek vassals brought their heavy hoplites and Agema infantry to fight with them?

I have. I also thought this would refer to a CAC rather than a SAC. After all, the Saka had to evolve their style of fighting once they moved into the mountainous terrain of the Hindu Kush and eventually into India itself.

[Lazy O]

The argument of western factions being crap against steppe is stupid, Kival2 came extremely close and was only stopped by an incredibly stubborn unit of indian Longbows.